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Radeon RX 480 "Polaris" Launched at $199

humbug said:
Why are you telling me that?
i've never said the 1070 was over priced, has anyone?
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Sorry humbug, wasn't aimed at you. Was following on from your post. I don't understand how the 1070 is 'overpriced' and RX 480 is 'good price' if according to leaks its would workout roughly the same price to performance.
 
I don't think anyone is saying the 1070 is overpriced, if they are; well ####

TheRealDeal said:
No $230 is the 8gb version.
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The 8GB ones have been seen in shops for £230 to £250, its a good price for a card thats faster than the 390X which is currently £300.

I just wish it was that bit quicker, doesn't need to be much quicker, another 10% would have it in a completely different category.

Game benchmarks might be better.
 
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Scramz said:
Plus extra 4GB VRam on that too to match.



I don't understand, If you put the same cooler on a £200 card and a £500 card, it still costs the same to manufacturer that cooler? So they put more money on the cooler for a more powerful card? Logically.
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If you're in the market for a £200 card you aren't going to pay £260 (+£60) for a variant with a top-end aftermarket cooler.

The kind of person who buys a £200 card doesn't need or want to pay £60 extra for the cooler. Simple, no?

So your claim that an MSRP of $229 could end up as £260 retail cards is frankly amazing. Only in ASUS-land :p
 
FoxEye said:
If you're in the market for a £200 card you aren't going to pay £260 (+£60) for a variant with a top-end aftermarket cooler.

The kind of person who buys a £200 card doesn't need or want to pay £60 extra for the cooler. Simple, no?

So your claim that an MSRP of $229 could end up as £260 retail cards is frankly amazing. Only in ASUS-land :p
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You are mistaken, the MSRP of $229 is for the reference blower design. £260, even £250 in reference to aftermarket OC cards.

Think back to the R9 290 blower design and costs of aftermarket OC cards when they was released after.

We will soon know in a few weeks.
 
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Scramz said:
You are mistaken, the MSRP of $229 is for the reference blower design. £260, even £250 reference to aftermarket OC cards.

Think back to the R9 290 blower design and costs of aftermarket OC cards when they was released after.

We will soon know in a few weeks.
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The R9 290 release at $399. It eventually came down to $299. Anyhow the £ v the $ has weakened since then so we can't compare. Still $230 v $300 is a big price gap.
 
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Scramz said:
£204 (Excluding additional import costs eg shipping costs), so lets say theoretically, upping to 8GB Vram and aftermarketcooler pushing it up to £260.

You can get a gtx 1070 8GB aftermarket cooler for £374.99. https://www.overclockers.co.uk/kfa2...ddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-091-kf.html

According to the recent leaked benchmarks, the GTX 1070 firestrike score is 44% faster than the RX 480. Benchmarks - http://videocardz.com/61005/new-amd-radeon-rx-480-3dmark-benchmarks

A £374.99 GTX 1070 8GB would be roughly 44% more expensive and 44% more power than a £260 8GB 480 (Both aftermarket).

Based on the leaking benchmarks and theoretically pricing above, I think both cards would be priced in accordance with their performance, so if the 1070 is overpriced then so it the RX 480.

I'm not saying the current pricing is right, they are over priced. But if the theoretically example does become reality, then I hope people don't see the RX 480 as 'cheap'.
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I feel the logic here is wrong. You are picking the cheapest 1070 you can find but you are not picking what would be the cheapest rx480. You also assume that the rx480 would have to have 8gigs and aftermarket cooler to be able to compete and you are trying to extract a price with stitched together math. The only real and honest way to do this i feel is by going with the MSRPs announced and current prices for launched cards.

The MSRP for the 1070 is 379 dollars and for the rx480 is 199. Now i havent read this myself but from what i understand from other post here the 8gig of the 480 is confirmed to be starting at 250(correct me here if im wrong). Using these numbers and that most likely highly inaccurate firestrike chart numbers would look something like this.

RX480 4 gig = 28,6 points per dollar spent
RX480 8 gig = 22,8 points per dollar spent(this is most likely even more inaccurate as the 8gig variant might get more points in the bench)
1070 non FE MSRP = 21,9 points per dollar spent
1070 FE MSRP = 18,5 points per dollar spent.
1070 Cheapest here on OCUK = 16,1 points per dollar spent.

Now im pretty positive that even these numbers might not be entirely accurate as that firestrike chart is most likely wrong with both the typical 1070 scores and the rx480 scores. But i do feel its a more honest way of comparing until the rx480 is actually launched and we have a real price for the card.
 
Phixsator said:
I feel the logic here is wrong. You are picking the cheapest 1070 you can find but you are not picking what would be the cheapest rx480. You also assume that the rx480 would have to have 8gigs and aftermarket cooler to be able to compete and you are trying to extract a price with stitched together math. The only real and honest way to do this i feel is by going with the MSRPs announced and current prices for launched cards.

The MSRP for the 1070 is 379 dollars and for the rx480 is 199. Now i havent read this myself but from what i understand from other post here the 8gig of the 480 is confirmed to be starting at 250(correct me here if im wrong). Using these numbers and that most likely highly inaccurate firestrike chart numbers would look something like this.

RX480 4 gig = 28,6 points per dollar spent
RX480 8 gig = 22,8 points per dollar spent(this is most likely even more inaccurate as the 8gig variant might get more points in the bench)
1070 non FE MSRP = 21,9 points per dollar spent
1070 FE MSRP = 18,5 points per dollar spent.
1070 Cheapest here on OCUK = 16,1 points per dollar spent.

Now im pretty positive that even these numbers might not be entirely accurate as that firestrike chart is most likely wrong with both the typical 1070 scores and the rx480 scores. But i do feel its a more honest way of comparing until the rx480 is actually launched and we have a real price for the card.
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I did not pick the cheapest 1070, that KFA Blower is cheaper. I was trying to compare non blower, 8GB OC w/Aftermarket coolers.

History tells us the MSRP is irrelevant nowadays.

I am just trying to say that in terms of P2P, it is looking like there will most likely not be that much in it, innit :cool: lol

kalniel said:
Well I think it could, but for market/currency reasons rather than for HSF reasons.
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This.
 
Gregster said:
Away with your common sense posting. It isn't welcome here! :p
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Except it isn't common sense. He is working out his price based on upping the 4GB to 8GB and adding an aftermarket cooler. But he is adding these costs to the price of the 8GB version to get his £260 price. Basically his price is ~£30 too high. He should have used the price of the 4GB version if he was going to include the cost of upping it to 8GB..

Second, the kind of people who pay £400 for a reference card aren't the same kind of people who pay £200. The people who are looking at £200 cards are not really likely to pay £60 for an aftermarket cooler.

Third, it seems that there is going to be lots of stock at launch. Good stock levels means very little gouging.
 
I'm still tempted to swap my 290 for a 480 purely for the power and heat savings in my ITX case.
 
melmac said:
Except it isn't common sense. He is working out his price based on upping the 4GB to 8GB and adding an aftermarket cooler. But he is adding these costs to the price of the 8GB version to get his £260 price. Basically his price is ~£30 too high. He should have used the price of the 4GB version if he was going to include the cost of upping it to 8GB..

Second, the kind of people who pay £400 for a reference card aren't the same kind of people who pay £200. The people who are looking at £200 cards are not really likely to pay £60 for an aftermarket cooler.

Third, it seems that there is going to be lots of stock at launch. Good stock levels means very little gouging.
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You can't get a 4GB version gtx....

Even -£30, £230, still not much different in P2P, certainly if you want to play high res and don't want a multi-card setup.

Secondly and again, one brand of AF coolers will be the same on a high end and mid range cards. It still costs the same to manufacturer the same cooler and the cost will reflect accordingly. You don't pay more for the same cooler on a different tier card.

I didn't base costs on gouging, it was more on history, tax and exchange rates.
 
Jacksonn said:
Hmm problem is what monitor would go nicely with this card ha.. No dell freesync :(
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I have had the same thought. I have actually grown to love my current Dell S2716DG but i really do not care much for nvidia yet there are no freesync version of the same monitor sadly. I really wish there were as it would have been an instant purchase for me if i decide to switch to AMD again.
 
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