Radeon RX 480 "Polaris" Launched at $199

[greatash]

You can't take the cheapest aftermarket 1070 and compare to a theoretical max price RX 480. Lets play your game and see how the maths swing.

RX 480X 8GB reference ~£220
Asus Strix 1070 expensive aftermarket version = £470

114% more expensive and only ~50% faster. See, doesn't look so good now does it?

At least wait until actual performance of 480 in real games as well as pricing before declaring it as overpriced as 1070.

Yeah and there will be the 4gb 480 at like what, £190 reference version? Makes the 1070 look even worse

 

[Scramz]

You can't take the cheapest aftermarket 1070 and compare to a theoretical max price RX 480. Lets play your game and see how the maths swing.

RX 480X 8GB reference ~£220
Asus Strix 1070 expensive aftermarket version = £470

114% more expensive and only ~50% faster. See, doesn't look so good now does it?

At least wait until actual performance of 480 in real games as well as pricing before declaring it as overpriced as 1070.

That is not my game at all and you are talking utter tosh comparing bottom end of tier to top end of tier.

Again, I did not take the 'cheapest' 1070, there is cheaper on OCUK.

We only have the pricing of the reference RX 480 and AMD's reference cards also tend to be the cheapest.

The point was to take the cheapest 480 8GB and the nearly cheapest 1070 8GB (take in consideration it is OC'd so its score would be higher on Videoz leak) and compare the price to performance from the latest leak benchmarks which is from Videoz. In doing so the price to performance was close.

There is not more or less to it.

I can't see the RX 480 8GB sub £220 but hopefully it will be.

 

[sprite-]

That is not my game at all and you are talking utter tosh comparing bottom end of tier to top end of tier.

Again, I did not take the 'cheapest' 1070, there is cheaper on OCUK.

We only have the pricing of the reference RX 480 and AMD's reference cards also tend to be the cheapest.

The point was to take the cheapest 480 and the nearly cheapest 1070 (take in consideration it is OC'd) and compare the price to performance from the latest leak benchmarks. In doing so the price to performance was close.

There is not more or less to it.

I can't see the RX 480 8GB sub £220 but hopefully it will be.

Few things wrong with that;

- You didn't take the "cheapest" 480, you didn't even use the leaked UK pricing.

- You used pretty much the slowest 3D Mark Ultra benchmark.

Don't get me wrong - the 480 could out to be £250 and the performance may well be that low. In that scenario, you'll be correct.. Then again, in that scenario most of us will look at it as a pretty meh card which Nvidia will likely compete with by releasing the 1060.

 

[GAC]

could always use the rx480 price that has been stated half a dozen times now as a uk retailers posted it, £253 for the 8gig card.

 

[sprite-]

could always use the rx480 price that has been stated half a dozen times now as a uk retailers posted it, £253 for the 8gig card.

Actually around £230-£237 (Including VAT also) on several sites for 8GB Sapphire.

 

[GAC]

id probably air on the side of caution and use £250 as if stock levels are as comedic as the 1070 and 1080 have been it will go up.

 

[Scramz]

Few things wrong with that;

- You didn't take the "cheapest" 480, you didn't even use the leaked UK pricing.

- You used pretty much the slowest 3D Mark Ultra benchmark.

Don't get me wrong - the 480 could out to be £250 and the performance may well be that low. In that scenario, you'll be correct.. Then again, in that scenario most of us will look at it as a pretty meh card which Nvidia will likely compete with by releasing the 1060.

As below, leaked price was between £250-260 which i used and compared to the very latest benchmark leak. Does it matter which benchmark it is, all cards need to power it.

TBF i did say in the original post, it is all theoretical, not fact.

could always use the rx480 price that has been stated half a dozen times now as a uk retailers posted it, £253 for the 8gig card.

Well if that is true then it only strengths what I was trying to say.

Actually around £230-£237 (Including VAT also) on several sites for 8GB Sapphire.

Ref and AM?

 

[sprite-]

id probably air on the side of caution and use £250 as if stock levels are as comedic as the 1070 and 1080 have been it will go up.

I think due to the long NDA there will be pretty good stock plus rumours of retailers receiving units - plus surely die size is smaller so less manufacturing issues.

 

[sprite-]

As below, leaked price was between £250-260 which i used and compared to the very latest benchmark leak. Does it matter which benchmark it is, all cards need to power it.

TBF i did say in the original post, it is all theoretical, not fact.

Mmm nope... It's been popping up on actual retail websites for less...

Ref and AM?

How do you know it's reference? People are quoting as the Nitro part - due to similarities in model number.

 

[Scramz]

Mmm nope... It's been popping up on actual retail websites for less...



How do you know it's reference? People are quoting as the Nitro part - due to similarities in model number.

Take what you will from this, but it seems kikatek has maybe the ref 8GB model for £240 delivered....

http://www.kikatek.com/P788949/21260-00-20G-SAPPHIRE-TECHNOLOGY-RADEON-RX-480

If this is the ref model, then like i said I cant see aftermarket solutions being less than £250 which is what I was saying from the start. (subject to this being true pricing of course).

We will soon see. Till then, happy gaming.

 

[SiDeards73]

You can't take the cheapest aftermarket 1070 and compare to a theoretical max price RX 480. Lets play your game and see how the maths swing.

RX 480X 8GB reference ~£220
Asus Strix 1070 expensive aftermarket version = £470

114% more expensive and only ~50% faster. See, doesn't look so good now does it?

At least wait until actual performance of 480 in real games as well as pricing before declaring it as overpriced as 1070.

+1 exactly this, people are also forgetting the 480 is a MID RANGE card, its not aimed at the enthusiast market at all, the 1070 is an enthusiast level product, these are 2 totally different cards aimed at totally different markets.

I admit i got caught up in the hype, thinking we would get some beast of a card for pittance, i forced a reality check on myself and am comfortable that the card is not aimed for people like me with a 290, its probably only going to be a marginal upgrade at best, but its priced accordingly.

 

[SiDeards73]

I also found this link


http://www.shopblt.com/item/sapphire-technology-21260-00-20g-sap-radeon-rx/u150_212600020g.html

 

[drunkenmaster]

I don't think anyone is saying the 1070 is overpriced, if they are; well ####



The 8GB ones have been seen in shops for £230 to £250, its a good price for a card thats faster than the 390X which is currently £300.

I just wish it was that bit quicker, doesn't need to be much quicker, another 10% would have it in a completely different category.

Game benchmarks might be better.

Early retailers are stupid, stop repeating what are nearly certainly incorrect prices.

Think back, remember when Gibbo told us wrong prices for, 290x maybe, can't remember the exact card but definitely he had the prices completely wrong? He was flat out convinced it was one thing and it turned out to be another? Leaks, he had the wrong prices because AMD wanted him to have the wrong prices, at launch the prices were lower. Stupid early retailers trying to steal sales and breaking NDA's don't have trustworthy prices.

1080/1070 stock is nearly non existent, people will randomly pay more for Nvidia and retailers like to gouge them. It's harder to gouge a card that has massive stock available in every single store. RX480 won't be price gouged nearly as badly as the 1080, % wise, not actual amount either.

I'd expect a RX480 8GB to be easily sub £220, probably £205-210.


Then we have performance, again a lot of cards have the wrong clocks and a lot of people who leak information don't have accurate information in the first place to leak and those posting leaked information also don't know their sources know the final specs... because they can change.

Then lastly.... where was the 7970 vs 680 and then Titan, where is it now. Where was the 290x against a 970, where is it now...... and on and on.

RX480 will move forward significantly over time, 1080 won't, 980/970 certainly won't, RX480 will.

 

[meldarthx]

Lambata tech has it couple quid cheaper.....a few hours ago it was a few quid cheaper than it is now.....

We don't know if its the ref model either - its all just speculation; but saying 3rd party models with be 250+ is another big unknown......Sapphire models tend to be a little more than say PCS+

That's the model I'm most likely going to look for; beast of a cooler and most likely come in at 230.....

 

[Scramz]

+1 exactly this, people are also forgetting the 480 is a MID RANGE card, its not aimed at the enthusiast market at all, the 1070 is an enthusiast level product, these are 2 totally different cards aimed at totally different markets.

I admit i got caught up in the hype, thinking we would get some beast of a card for pittance, i forced a reality check on myself and am comfortable that the card is not aimed for people like me with a 290, its probably only going to be a marginal upgrade at best, but its priced accordingly.

No one is comparing the overall peak performance, that would be completely wrong.

However we are comparing price to performance which is relevant across all cards regardless of tier. It helps buyers choice between a sli/cf setup or a single card setup.

 

[SiDeards73]

No one is comparing the overall peak performance, that would be completely wrong.

However we are comparing price to performance which is relevant across all cards regardless of tier. It helps buyers choice between a sli/cf setup or a single card setup.

Yeah but since when has Nvidia ever offered better performance per pound spent than AMD? i know im probably going to get proved wrong now hahaha.

Seriously though, AMD afaik normally win on this point.

 

[FoxEye]

One thing I will agree with - if the price is £250+ ish and the perf is <390X ish, it's a *massive* fail, the same scale of fail to me as the 1070

Because that's basically no improvement from last gen. And that's the scenario Scramz is suggesting.

 

[AlamoX]

could always use the rx480 price that has been stated half a dozen times now as a uk retailers posted it, £253 for the 8gig card.

where are these dozen prices ?
there have been 1 leak, and ppl are building up on price that includes 30£ of shipping in it.
prices 4Go 199$ > 140£ + 20% VAT = 168£ + (5-10% retailer) = 175-179£ reference design
prices 8Go 229$ > 162£ + 20% VAT = 195£ + (5-10% retailer) = 205-215£ reference design
add 10-30£ for custom coolers, now can we plz stop the nonsense pricing to a 250£-300£, that just wont happen for reference or basic coolers.

 

[Freddie1980]

where are these dozen prices ?
there have been 1 leak, and ppl are building up on price that includes 30£ of shipping in it.
prices 4Go 199$ > 140£ + 20% VAT = 168£ + (5-10% retailer) = 175-179£ reference design
prices 8Go 229$ > 162£ + 20% VAT = 195£ + (5-10% retailer) = 205-215£ reference design
add 10-30£ for custom coolers, now can we plz stop the nonsense pricing to a 250£-300£, that just wont happen for reference or basic coolers.

I doubt there will be 'reference' designs at lunch, typically on mid range products like this you get customs models from day dot.

 

[Scramz]

Yeah but since when has Nvidia ever offered better performance per pound spent than AMD? i know im probably going to get proved wrong now hahaha.

Seriously though, AMD afaik normally win on this point.

Wasn't saying they are, it seemed a little fishy so I was putting the latest leaks of benchmarks and pricing together and looking at the theoretical price to performance, which wasn't much different from the 1070's price to performance on a similar AF card.

See post 2869 https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=29625250&postcount=2869