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Radeon RX 480 "Polaris" Launched at $199

I have had the same thought. I have actually grown to love my current Dell S2716DG but i really do not care much for nvidia yet there are no freesync version of the same monitor sadly. I really wish there were as it would have been an instant purchase for me if i decide to switch to AMD again.

This is going to be a problem for a few people I think :mad:
 
This is going to be a problem for a few people I think :mad:

I have a hard time choosing the Asus freesync TN version as the ROG swift i had was not impressive at all and im not touching the current AUO IPS 144hz panels out there as they are horrid as well imho. What to do what to do :P
 
I have a hard time choosing the Asus freesync TN version as the ROG swift i had was not impressive at all and im not touching the current AUO IPS 144hz panels out there as they are horrid as well imho. What to do what to do :P

It's almost pushing me to spend more than I want and get a 1070... Then the little red guy ( well I suppose green ) on my shoulder says " you know.. You could future proof a little more and get a 1080 " :mad:
 
i had a blast reading some (nvidia friendly) posts after the Videocardz leak :D
going from disapointing at 980 performance for 170£, to priced too high for 300£ 8Go, the airbags for the leak are real :D
performance is honestly better than what i expected, the stock seem to be flooding the retailers so i wouldn't worry about the price gouging too much.
the only thing left is gaming, are the drivers there yet, and how good of an overclocker this card is, if you can push it to FuryX perf through OC, this would be the best product between the 2 vendors released this mid year.
crossfingers for Drivers and OC.
 
If the pound gets weaker and pushes the rx480 price it means the GTX1070 pricing situation might get worse.

Might be worth waiting for the GTX1060 release at this rate. Sigh.
 
i had a blast reading some (nvidia friendly) posts after the Videocardz leak :D
going from disapointing at 980 performance for 170£, to priced too high for 300£ 8Go, the airbags for the leak are real :D
performance is honestly better than what i expected, the stock seem to be flooding the retailers so i wouldn't worry about the price gouging too much.
the only thing left is gaming, are the drivers there yet, and how good of an overclocker this card is, if you can push it to FuryX perf through OC, this would be the best product between the 2 vendors released this mid year.
crossfingers for Drivers and OC.

Come on man, stop with the "Not sucking up to AMD so must be NVidia biased" comments all the time. You do post some good bits but doing that is poor form. The price performance is good and no two ways about it, just I was hoping for a little more and even hoping to see mention of a 490X style card for some decent side by side comparison vids. For me it isn't the price thing, it is the performance thing and I want AMD to be pushing for the top spot in the fastest GPU. Maybe Vega will bring that but that is a long way off in tech terms and anybody wanting to go high end with AMD is **** out of luck and that is the bottom line and no buttering up is changing that at present.

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You have to take into account that this is a bit of an enthusiast forum as well and many more here use the top tier cards than regular gamers tend to, so hence a little bit of a lull with the news.
 
Why are you telling me that?
i've never said the 1070 was over priced, has anyone?

Most of this forum apparently, it even has its own thread to discuss how ludicrously overpriced the 1070 is.

so a valid point on performance per £. If the 480 isnt any better than the 1070 either the 1070 isnt overpriced or both are.
 
Most of this forum apparently, it even has its own thread to discuss how ludicrously overpriced the 1070 is.

so a valid point on performance per £. If the 480 isnt any better than the 1070 either the 1070 isnt overpriced or both are.

there has been a lot of mention the 1070 is overpriced, I don't think it is myself, its priced where I thought it would be and I'm sure the price will drop in time, if it supported freesync I would probably buy one
 
Most of this forum apparently, it even has its own thread to discuss how ludicrously overpriced the 1070 is.

so a valid point on performance per £. If the 480 isnt any better than the 1070 either the 1070 isnt overpriced or both are.

Well if it is the same fps per £ of a £365 gtx1070 it could do one tbh.
 
Sorry humbug, wasn't aimed at you. Was following on from your post. I don't understand how the 1070 is 'overpriced' and RX 480 is 'good price' if according to leaks its would workout roughly the same price to performance.

But it's all speculation currently....

We've seen Firestrike Ultra benchmarks of 3500ish (Youtube Video - Guy from ChipHell) , then 2800ish (Videocardz)... So you've got to put it into context of what has previously been discussed in this thread, which you haven't... You're also speculating on the price of the 480.

If the 480 when officially benched at stock frequency, is scoring around 2800 at Ultra on Firestrike. Then yes, it's not going to set the word alight. It's just another card which Nvidia will likely compete with in form of their 1060, it would be considered a disappointment.

If the 480 when officially benched at stock frequency, is scoring around 3500 at Ultra on Firestrike. Then it's a fantastic card.

Lets look at this way... Lets "assume" the 480 is going to be £250. We'll also use FE pricing of £620 and a reviewed custom card.

Firestrike Ultra Points per £:

Nvidia 1070 FE: 10.90
Nvidia 1070 MSI Gaming X: 10.94
AMD 480 (Videocardz Bench): 11.42
AMD 480 (ChipHell Video): 13.71

Meaning the 480 offers 25-27% more bang for buck (or pound as it is)

Then we need to see the DX12 performance, to see if AMD still command an advantage in that area. Because that'll play a huge part also. If the ChipHell video stands true, the 1070 FE is 27% faster than the 480 - But if the DX12 advantage is held on DX12 games that could reduce to 15-20%... All of a sudden the 1070 looks like a card offering between 15-27% additional performance for a 60% increase in price.
 
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But it's all speculation currently....

We've seen Firestrike Ultra benchmarks of 3500ish (Youtube Video - Guy from ChipHell) , then 2800ish (Videocardz)... So you've got to put it into context of what has previously been discussed in this thread, which you haven't... You're also speculating on the price of the 480.

If the 480 when officially benched at stock frequency, is scoring around 2800 at Ultra on Firestrike. Then yes, it's not going to set the word alight. It's just another card which Nvidia will likely compete with in form of their 1060, it would be considered a disappointment.

If the 480 when officially benched at stock frequency, is scoring around 3500 at Ultra on Firestrike. Then it's a fantastic card.

Lets look at this way... Lets "assume" the 480 is going to be £250. We'll also use FE pricing of £620 and a reviewed custom card.

Firestrike Ultra Points per £:

Nvidia 1070 FE: 10.72
Nvidia 1070 MSI Gaming X: 10.94
AMD 480 (Videocardz Bench): 11.42
AMD 480 (ChipHell Video): 13.71

Meaning the 480 offers 25-27% more bang for buck (or pound as it is)

Then we need to see the DX12 performance, to see if AMD still command an advantage in that area. Because that'll play a huge part also.

I did start my original post with 'so lets say theoretically'.

Isn't the FE £399?

Based on Videocardz, and a £250 480 and real price of £374.99 1070, then bang for buck is very close. Most would opt for one 1070 over 2x 480. Again it is all theoretically.
 
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I did start my original post with 'so lets say theoretically'.

Isn't the FE £399?

Based on Videocardz, and a £250 480 and real price of £374.99 1070, then bang for buck is very close. Most would opt for one 1070 over 2x 480. Again it is all theoretically.

Actually it's 10.90 (Not 10.70) for 1070 FE i used the Overall not Graphics.
 
Previous 3dmark scores also had it above the 980 and bellow the fury with a graphics score of 18,060. There is still probably something to it where something is varying the performance to limit leaks etc.
 
I did start my original post with 'so lets say theoretically'.

Isn't the FE £399?

Based on Videocardz, and a £250 480 and real price of £374.99 1070, then bang for buck is very close. Most would opt for one 1070 over 2x 480. Again it is all theoretically.

See that's choosing the facts to fit your argument...

I could do the same...

Lets take then "cheapest" non reference cooler £374.99 on Overclockers.

Then lets also take the £230 UK price the 480 8GB non reference version that has been popping up on other retailers... Also using the chiphell benchmarks.

3D Mark Points Per £:

1070: 11.63
480: 14.9

Thats a 27.2% increase in performance for a 63% increase in cost.

The fact remains - we just don't know. It's all speculation at the moment. There are currently two "leaked" scenarios, one puts 480 as a bit "meh" - the other puts it in the realm of fantastic. Either being true - i still view the 1070 and 1080 as completely overpriced cards... Also, lets be honest, there is a reason why the KFA cards as cheaper than the rest. They're considerably less desirable. Who is to say we won't have similar brands on the 480 that put the 480 at a price of £210 instead of £230 like Sapphire.
 
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Well whatever it is it looks to be ahead of a 390x even at 4k with a smaller bus so should be in a good spot slightly ahead of 980 performance at 1440p. I would have been really disappointed with 290 performance as the guy on Adoredtv suggested.
 
£204 (Excluding additional import costs eg shipping costs), so lets say theoretically, upping to 8GB Vram and aftermarketcooler pushing it up to £260.

You can get a gtx 1070 8GB aftermarket cooler for £374.99. https://www.overclockers.co.uk/kfa2...ddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-091-kf.html

According to the recent leaked benchmarks, the GTX 1070 firestrike score is 44% faster than the RX 480. Benchmarks - http://videocardz.com/61005/new-amd-radeon-rx-480-3dmark-benchmarks

A £374.99 GTX 1070 8GB would be roughly 44% more expensive and 44% more power than a £260 8GB 480 (Both aftermarket).

Based on the leaking benchmarks and theoretically pricing above, I think both cards would be priced in accordance with their performance, so if the 1070 is overpriced then so it the RX 480.

I'm not saying the current pricing is right, they are over priced. But if the theoretically example does become reality, then I hope people don't see the RX 480 as 'cheap'.

You can't take the cheapest aftermarket 1070 and compare to a theoretical max price RX 480. Lets play your game and see how the maths swing.

RX 480X 8GB reference ~£220
Asus Strix 1070 expensive aftermarket version = £470

114% more expensive and only ~50% faster. See, doesn't look so good now does it?

At least wait until actual performance of 480 in real games as well as pricing before declaring it as overpriced as 1070.
 
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