It doesn't have to perfectly match a stock 1070 at 1400; if its within 5% with such a small OC - means the rumored Beast Mode cards would easily match and pass stock 1070s for less money......and possibly less power....
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Radeon RX 480 "Polaris" Launched at $199
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It doesn't have to perfectly match a stock 1070 at 1400; if its within 5% with such a small OC - means the rumored Beast Mode cards would easily match and pass stock 1070s for less money......and possibly less power....
One thing i dont get is that nvidia can reach 1500 ish at stock for their clocks with their 16nm finfet chips which i guess is from the die shrink from 28. How come AMDs 14nm finfet is still around 1000 range? Shouldnt they be at least 1500 stock or better as their even smaller than nvidias 16nm? This is something thats been bothering me since they both came out.
Nvidia have not gone anywhere near as dense as they can on the node, GP100 is far denser than GP104. That is the main reason why they can have such high clocks. IF the density was closer to that of GP100 then GP104 would more than likely not clock as high as it can.
Now from it appearing that 36CU's may be the full P10 part, it appears that AMD have not gone as dense as they normally would with the new node, which means we may see RX480's with higher clocks than past parts. could go as high at 16-1800.
1266Mhz = about 3,400 score in the other benchmark.
This one with the overclock is from base clock 1080Mhz at 3,200 score.
1080Mhz + 30% = 1400Mhz
The score in the below chart is 4,094
So 3,200 + 30% = 4,160. 30% overclock = 29% performance
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1266Mhz = about 3,450 score in the other benchmark.
This one with the overclock is from base clock 1080Mhz at 3,200 score.
1080Mhz + 30% = 1400Mhz
The score in the below chart is 4,094
So 3,200 + 30% = 4,160.
Come on man, Why keep posting the fake chart all the time. The OC result is where the TitanX was in the original chart.
it was in that spot, but the bars are different lengths and they have different values.
1266mhz > 1400mhz is a 10.58% increase in clock speed.
If the RX 480 8GB Firestrike Ultra benchmark is to believed, then extra 10.5% in performance would net a score of 3800. While i know it doesn't always work like that, lets assume that's so.
1070 FE hits 4208 in same benchmark. So that would still be 10.73% faster than a 1400mhz clocked 480...
Then again, you have to factor in DX12 performance aswell. So lets say the 480 gains a further 5% over the 1070 in DX12 games.
That means a £230 (Based on some leaked pricing) card, overclocked. Could be within 5-10% of a £400 GPU at stock. Also fair to compare that against an overclocked 1070 FE - which would get you 4678 - So thats 18-23% extra performance over an OC'd 480.
So basically... An 1070 FE is a 74% increase in price for an 18-23% increase in performance. (Yes we all know 480 custom boards may be more - but equally so are 1070 custom boards)
This is of course all based on speculated 480 performance and pricing.
I don't think many expect the 480 to match a 1070 - But if leaks are to believed - it's going to offer a card not far off it for a fraction of the price. Which kind of lines up with AMDs strategy - which is appealing to the widest set of consumers on price but also maintaining a decent performance.
If all the above remains true - i can definitely see Nvidia reacting to this and 1070s in general falling to the £320-£350 mark.
If the RX 480 8GB Firestrike Ultra benchmark is to believed, then extra 10.5% in performance would net a score of 3800. While i know it doesn't always work like that, lets assume that's so.
1070 FE hits 4208 in same benchmark. So that would still be 10.73% faster than a 1400mhz clocked 480...
Then again, you have to factor in DX12 performance aswell. So lets say the 480 gains a further 5% over the 1070 in DX12 games.
That means a £230 (Based on some leaked pricing) card, overclocked. Could be within 5-10% of a £400 GPU at stock. Also fair to compare that against an overclocked 1070 FE - which would get you 4678 - So thats 18-23% extra performance over an OC'd 480.
So basically... An 1070 FE is a 74% increase in price for an 18-23% increase in performance. (Yes we all know 480 custom boards may be more - but equally so are 1070 custom boards)
This is of course all based on speculated 480 performance and pricing.
I don't think many expect the 480 to match a 1070 - But if leaks are to believed - it's going to offer a card not far off it for a fraction of the price. Which kind of lines up with AMDs strategy - which is appealing to the widest set of consumers on price but also maintaining a decent performance.
If all the above remains true - i can definitely see Nvidia reacting to this and 1070s in general falling to the £320-£350 mark.
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Yup.
it also depends on how performance scales, performance could scale non linear due to the new 'instruction prefetching' features. Similar to how performance doesn't always linear scale on a CPU due to how branch prediction and the cache system works. At higher clocks you often end up with a bigger increase in performance due to the way the feature is cycle based and not time based.
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Yup - All true. It's all speculation at this point.
Great to have this kind of speculation for an AMD card though, god knows we need something to get Nvidia to see sense on pricing
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A 1070 for £200
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These are also from different reviewers on different rigs but i will concede there are about 5 percentage points missing, which is fairly tight.
I think sprite- sum up sums it up, overclocked to 1400Mhz, the thing is pretty close to a stock 1070.
And official AMD number for the 480 in the Steam VR bench.
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I really do hope for the sake of future GPU hardware, that the 480 is an excellent GPU. Just how interesting would it be for us all if the 480 did meet 1070 speeds?
Red or Green we all gain, am rooting for this GPU.
Red or Green we all gain, am rooting for this GPU.
There's several people here thinking it could very well do that.
Also, 1% clock increase does not automatically translate to 1% performance increase by any means.