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Radeon RX 480 "Polaris" Launched at $199
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You're serious too, aren't you?
After telling us how it was an absolute certainty that AMD would release AT LEAST several months before Nvidia could ready Pascal, your posts have a serious flavor of kool aid to them.
.... what was wrong about the statement? It still seems they could have. They're still going to deliver serious volume of Polaris long before NVIDIA will of Pascal. I was genuinely surprised that NVIDIA were able to get even a trickle out this soon, but it's going to be a long while before we see any volume in the SKUs they've launched, and longer still until we see high volume SKUs.
Also, if those numbers are true for Polaris, how in hell's name do you think NVIDIA struggle for 2 years with Pascal until Volta? Remember also that Volta has been massively delayed ... their 'new' and 'modern' architecture may be so late that it's already hugely outdated by the time it finally drops.
Also, I'm hardly the only one speculating about a consumer market exit for NVIDIA. They haven't said a word about the consumer market re: either Pascal or Volta in advance of actual SKUs launching. They've talked solely about super computer and deep learning.
Their anti-competitive practices, dirty tricks and vendor lock in ruses in the consumer market smack of a company that's trying to extract maximum profit in the short to medium term and has no plan whatsoever for the long term.
+1
to that.
Next time quote the hype video
, love that video, AMD, in future that is how you hype.
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What if.....
What if AMD are only releasing the Polaris stuff as they have cards capable of getting near Nvidias recent offering in the 1070, which replaced the 970, Arguably Nvidias best ever selling gpu. What if that happened, and made people realise the 1080 is kinda pointless stopgap until the real high end and the 1070 should Actually be the photo card. What if this was true and AMD had something within 15% performance but at 50% of the cost.
What if Vega exceeded the above?
What if AMD are only releasing the Polaris stuff as they have cards capable of getting near Nvidias recent offering in the 1070, which replaced the 970, Arguably Nvidias best ever selling gpu. What if that happened, and made people realise the 1080 is kinda pointless stopgap until the real high end and the 1070 should Actually be the photo card. What if this was true and AMD had something within 15% performance but at 50% of the cost.
What if Vega exceeded the above?
What if.....AMD simply haven't got a card ready for release yet that can take on the 1070 and 1080...
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Looks like AMD have actually got a pretty decent card with the RX480 and have drastically improved their efficiency compared to the last few generations.
Now since I watched Adored TVs videos on the AMD masterplan it seems to me that there might actually be some credibility to it and the path that AMD are taking.
For instance, if AMD do go all out and really get a grip on their mGPU drivers and they really start showing big progress in getting say the 480s working together really, really well (or any other new cards for that matter) it could well mean that AMD will then not only start to compete with the 1070/1080 with dual, smaller/efficient cards but also with the Vega 10/11 that will go mano-a-mano with 1080/Ti etc... A two pronged assault from front and rear, if you will. (ooeerr missus).
Just a thought.....and would like to know everyone elses on this too.
Now since I watched Adored TVs videos on the AMD masterplan it seems to me that there might actually be some credibility to it and the path that AMD are taking.
For instance, if AMD do go all out and really get a grip on their mGPU drivers and they really start showing big progress in getting say the 480s working together really, really well (or any other new cards for that matter) it could well mean that AMD will then not only start to compete with the 1070/1080 with dual, smaller/efficient cards but also with the Vega 10/11 that will go mano-a-mano with 1080/Ti etc... A two pronged assault from front and rear, if you will. (ooeerr missus).
Just a thought.....and would like to know everyone elses on this too.
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Looks like AMD have actually got a pretty decent card with the RX480 and have drastically improved their efficiency compared to the last few generations.
Now since I watched Adored TVs videos on the AMD masterplan it seems to me that there might actually be some credibility to it and the path that AMD are taking.
For instance, if AMD do go all out and really get a grip on their mGPU drivers and they really start showing big progress in getting say the 480s working together really, really well (or any other new cards for that matter) it could well mean that AMD will then not only start to compete with the 1070/1080 with dual, smaller/efficient cards but also with the Vega 10/11 that will go mano-a-mano with 1080/Ti etc... A two pronged assault from front and rear, if you will. (ooeerr missus).
Just a thought.....and would like to know everyone elses on this too.
Problem is mgpu has been bad for so many for so long it may be past the point of no return in regards to trust for many users.
It's definitely something that will need to be seen and believed and consistent for a good year or more before many will dabble back in that area again.
However with low cost high performing cards in the horizon people may dabble again as it's relatively inexpensive and when it works offers decent performance.
The trust relationship between users and drivers however is badly damaged in regards to mgpu and the promise of mgpu support in games is also something people are wary of as many developers won't bother as many of their games are console ports and get low amounts of tuning for PC users.
Now if we had dual gpu in consoles it would be an entirely different story I feel
Next time quote the hype video
Yeah, maybe I should have...but to be honest it kinda bugs the hell out of me when people quote other peoples videos or large piccys and it goes on for four or five posts etc...
Maybe I am just being grumpy at people stealing my screen real estate for something I have already viewed.
I found the quote about having Doom running on Zen quite funny...as If they were quite surprised about it.
Looking forward to Zen as that is where my next load of moolah is going...New Mobo, Processor, Memory....as long as it is good chip and good bang for buck as they used to be.
Looks like AMD have actually got a pretty decent card with the RX480 and have drastically improved their efficiency compared to the last few generations.
Now since I watched Adored TVs videos on the AMD masterplan it seems to me that there might actually be some credibility to it and the path that AMD are taking.
For instance, if AMD do go all out and really get a grip on their mGPU drivers and they really start showing big progress in getting say the 480s working together really, really well (or any other new cards for that matter) it could well mean that AMD will then not only start to compete with the 1070/1080 with dual, smaller/efficient cards but also with the Vega 10/11 that will go mano-a-mano with 1080/Ti etc... A two pronged assault from front and rear, if you will. (ooeerr missus).
Just a thought.....and would like to know everyone elses on this too.
If you said to me:
"Here is 1 million, bet on which company will be dominate in GPUs in 10 years time. I'd pick AMD"
Now, AMD are a company in a pretty vulnerable state at the moment. Providing they can build on some successes in the next 1-3 years it's going to shore up their long term strategy, which I believe mirrors what AdoredTV spoke of. Nvidia are in the opposite position, short term they're strong but long term they're very vulnerable. Tegra etc has been their approach to address those vulnerabilities but they haven't done well, way to much established competition in the mobile GPU space.
Then again, I also think if AMD ever to realise that long term strategy and Nvidia begin to decline. Intel will buy them and throw so much money and further marketing prowess at it that they could easily bounce back. An Intel owned and backed Nvidia would be a monster - I also can't quite see AMD ever overcoming the lead Intel have built to nullify that..
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Yeah, I think that would shake it up a bit. Surprised it hasnt been considered though....actually it probably has or is being considered behind the closed doors at MS and Sony.
Talking of which...the new Scorpio is said to have around 6 TFlops of grunt....doesn't that sound like Full Fat RX480 to anyone? I mean 40 CUs not 36. I cannot remember where I saw it but the rumoured TFlops of RX480 were supposed to be 5.89...so is it that far a stretch to get to 6 TFlops with a few more CUs to get it to 2560 shaders. Please point out my errors or crap maths while searching for the truth in all of this.
Yeah, I think that would shake it up a bit. Surprised it hasnt been considered though....actually it probably has or is being considered behind the closed doors at MS and Sony.
Talking of which...the new Scorpio is said to have around 6 TFlops of grunt....doesn't that sound like Full Fat RX480 to anyone? I mean 40 CUs not 36. I cannot remember where I saw it but the rumoured TFlops of RX480 were supposed to be 5.89...so is it that far a stretch to get to 6 TFlops with a few more CUs to get it to 2560 shaders. Please point out my errors or crap maths while searching for the truth in all of this.
In consoles they add the PCU TPFLops to the GPU to give a bigger number for marketing purposes.
ppl need to stop having this mentality, today we have good enough APIs to get rid of those problems, now it's all up to the Devs, the community need to stop accepting dx9-11 games, and need to start asking for dx12/vulkan games, the faster we transition to that the better it gets for everyone (well except for Nvidia
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Yeah, I think that would shake it up a bit. Surprised it hasnt been considered though....actually it probably has or is being considered behind the closed doors at MS and Sony.
Talking of which...the new Scorpio is said to have around 6 TFlops of grunt....doesn't that sound like Full Fat RX480 to anyone? I mean 40 CUs not 36. I cannot remember where I saw it but the rumoured TFlops of RX480 were supposed to be 5.89...so is it that far a stretch to get to 6 TFlops with a few more CUs to get it to 2560 shaders. Please point out my errors or crap maths while searching for the truth in all of this.
2560 shaders, 40cus, would be 6.48Tflops.
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Whoa people! Wait until the cards are released first!
The optimism of hardcore AMD fans is seemingly endless.
I reckon this will happen sooner than later.
LOL
This one i will re-quote.
Do you "10X Maxwell" take "Overclockers Dream" to be your lawful wedded wife?
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