Radeon RX 480 "Polaris" Launched at $199

[SkeeterUK]

970s are even lower than i thought now, i just looked at the weekly deals and there is a asus one with £20 cashback and its listed for 233. So in effect its £203. 970s will be even harder to avoid considering over a 480 now. Well unless your one of those that complain about the 3.5gb ram thing still.

(btw sorry for any posts today that are not great with spelling, bit tired today.)

Edit - i said the asus 970 would be £203 i meant £213 with the £20 cashback thing.

 

[old gamer]

Wait and see what CF is like bud. Don't jump in at that please, as CF and SLI in lots of newer games is pretty dire lately.

no im going to hold out to see whats what first,ive had quite a few crossfire setups in the past and its mostly been good but i know there are a few here that have not been impressed lately so i really need to know if amd are going to start giving crossfire some love again

 

[Mr Latte]

That card already exists, its the 390.

Show me its price, temps, how it throttles and does it support all the features of RX480?
I look forward to benchmark comparison between both even assuming you are correct why would I buy the older product now regardless if heavily reduced to similar money?

@SkeeterUK seriously you'd rather have a GTX970 than an RX480?
I see no reason other than preference for a brand why its a better purchase and yes some games clearly can use or be expected to use more than 4GB

 

[humbug]

Show me its price, temps, how it throttles and does it support all the features of RX480?

Features? what features? you tell me, you're the one who made the argument, what features does the RX 480 have that the 970 or 390 does not? what features are they which make it a similar value at similar performance?

 

[Feoilban]

No that is exactly what i said, "overclocked the 480 may match a 980TI" i said nothing about the 980TI being overclocked.
You said there is no way a 480 would match a 980TI no mater what you do to it

If thats what the performance is, fine.

I expected too much from it but i don't think my expectations are unreasonable.

If you think the 480 should match the titan x then yes your expectations are unreasonable

 

[XeNoNF50]

If you think the 480 should match the titan x then yes your expectations are unreasonable

Seconded! Titan performance for 200 odd quid is very unreasonable.

 

[kalniel]

I have to agree with a point humbug is making here.

The 480 - if it is 290/390 perf for similar price - is not *just* a poor upgrade for current 390/390X owners.

It's also a poor upgrade for current 380/X owners too. They could have bought a 290/390 years ago, but they didn't.

So if they didn't buy a 290/390 at £240, why would the now be scrambling to buy a 480, at the same price and perf?

Because they prefer a cooler more efficient chip? I could have bought a 390X to upgrade my 7870, but didn't want to because I wanted something smaller and cooler.

 

[kalniel]

i just gave you 2 links to US and UK retailer for basicaly the same cards for the same price, helf your arguments do not works , and the only one left is premium and stock, the latter we both would agree it would be hard AMD seem very well prepared, what's left is the premium gouging, which is simply ridiculous the call a 40% markup a premium, thats more like racketeering.

Your links are to the 380, not a new card like I was talking about. We seen more happy to pay over the odds for new cards over here, then over time the price comes down.

 

[Jono8]

What Gibbo has said is true . Whether it might get close to a stock 980Ti at max overclock is sort of a moot point, seen as a 980Ti can then overclock ridiculously as a gimme and net you potentially another 20- 30% performance on top of that, and 980Ti's are already starting at £380 for a decent custom one, and dropping...

 

[skline00]

Currently powering my 3440x1440 Dell Ultrawide with 2x R9 280x. An overclocked RX480 crossfire combo might give me GTX1080 performance... for two thirds of the price. Can't wait for the NDA to be lifted to know more about real world performance of these cards.

Gibbo, are you expecting a lot of stock quick or is AMD gonna do a paper launch again?...

dragonmike, have the same Dell, U3415W, and now powering it with a ZOTAK GTX 1080 FE with an EK Block (I know , I know why waste the $$ but it was the only one available here in the states). I had 2 R9 290s in CF for my other rig but moved the GTX 980 TI SC to that rig.

I think it's a fair bet that the 2 RX 480s will nip at a single GTX 1080's heels BUT you still have that problem of games supporting the CF/SLI setups, example? DOOM.

Perhaps, IF the RX480 sells like hotcakes, and I think it will, AND AMD can get some developers to write DX12 support for CF from release it sure will help.

If nothing else, 2 RX480s in CF will use MUCH less power than 2 R9 280Xs, have VR support etc.

Good luck.

 

[SkeeterUK]

Btw one thing that gets me about all this 480 priced at 199 for VR at 1440. Who would worry about price being 199 considering only the rich that buys rifts or vives for 600+ or somit already. Surely if they can buy a rift and have a good cpu for it etc would really worry about the price of a vr gfx card for 199 when they would i think go for one of nvidias offerings like the 1080/70.

Would make more sense to me if somehow vr units were a lot cheaper then they can have people saying ok i bought a rift basic for 200 and i can also get a 200 card to run it on which the 480 by all accounts would be good for them people. But for people that has £300 cpus, probably £100 16b worth of ram, a rift for 600+. Etc. Would them kinda people buy a 200 dollar gfx card? Or a 500+ gfx card?

 

[humbug]

What Gibbo has said is true . Whether it might get close to a stock 980Ti at max overclock is sort of a moot point, seen as a 980Ti can then overclock ridiculously as a gimme and net you potentially another 20- 30% performance on top of that, and 980Ti's are already starting at £380 for a decent custom one, and dropping...

That's not what he said, he said an overclocked 480 will never match a stock 980TI no mater what you do to it, that puts a completely different perspective on it.

 

[Sargatanas2511]

That's not what he said, he said an overclocked 480 will never match a stock 980TI no mater what you do to it, that puts a completely different perspective on it.

He also said that he never actually tested it. He just plugged it in and turned it on pretty much. So he is going on expectation and not experience.

 

[Warbie]

What do you guys think the chance is of a 480 appearing in a 14/15"laptop? I've long wanted to replace my desktop with something portable but don't want to spend silly money and don't want to lug around a massive beast.

 

[SiDeards73]

Does anyone know if theres Xfire Support for

Elder Scrolls Online
Diablo 3
The Division
WoW
Grim Dawn

These are the only games i play pretty much, they all run fine on my 290, although Division gives it a bit of a hammering now, and im moving to 1440p from 1080p, so want more grunt...

If Xfire works on those games i will prob go down the Xfire 480 route.

Edited to add: Hang on just found this list http://amdcrossfire.wikia.com/wiki/Crossfire_Game_Compatibility_List

 

[Gregster]

The fail would be on the price you get for that performance, its basically more of the same 390/X for about the same money under the 'efficiency' banner.

I wouldn't buy it and i'm desperate to replace my 970 with something new for sub £300.

Then the 480 isn't the card for you and it is that simple. You need to look at the second hand market and grab a 980Ti or possibly a Fury X or wait. If you are not prepared to go over £300, I think you are out of options this round. Don't be self entitled to this and that is my advice.

 

[SkeeterUK]

Hmm do we really need to keep posting about any comparisons to 980ti cards performance? Stock or oc, does it matter? It wont be near that so why argue about it anymore? Just move on to other topics about the 480?

 

[LoadsaMoney]

looks like that those with 390 (or similar) don't have an AMD upgrade path, 1070 or 1080 are the only choices

I said this ages ago myself, anyone with a 970/290 and up, the 480s not for you

 

[Mauller]

got some nice close ups here.

Spoiler

Can see the DVI pinouts here, looks to be dual link DVI-D only.

Resize your images!

 

[eddyr]

I have to agree with a point humbug is making here.

The 480 - if it is 290/390 perf for similar price - is not *just* a poor upgrade for current 390/390X owners.

It's also a poor upgrade for current 380/X owners too. They could have bought a 290/390 years ago, but they didn't.

So if they didn't buy a 290/390 at £240, why would the now be scrambling to buy a 480, at the same price and perf?

Clearly many 380 owners were hoping for a card at 380 prices, not 390 prices, with 30% more perf or so.

Frankly, if the 8gb 480 is >£200, it's not a dream upgrade for 380 users, so who is AMD targetting? People who haven't bought a GFX card since 2010?

I am not sure how you are approaching your assessment but it seems a little skewed. A cpl of considerations spring to mind.

-Why would 390(X) owners, who in the majority have spend £300+, be particularly keen on the idea of upgrading to a ~£200 card?
-Why should 380 owners want to buy the 390 at £240? or have bought it years before at £300+
-knowing new polaris gpus are incoming, why not wait - ppl naturally lean towards the newer/latest tech over older tech if it is coming at around the same price.
-potential polaris buyers look to be able to get 390 performance at ~380-380x prices (which could be what, 390 performance at between 15-25% cheaper than 390 pricing that is intended to clear stock).


Besides, if Polaris is not a target for one segment of the market why does this seem to negate the others? Both AMD and Nvidia will need to release cards to target the <$200 market. The market exists.