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Radeon RX 480 "Polaris" Launched at $199

Mtom said:
They are struggling to produce an acceptable quantity.
The problem is TSMC has far bigger customers (Apple, a Qualcomm, a MediaTek és a Xilinx) than NV and the bigger ones get the productin time first.
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Gibbo seemed pretty chuffed with how many they are shifting. Not that I'm refuting your claim.
 
TomRL said:
So the benchmarks seem to be fairly conclusive that the 480 is sub-980. Is it safe to get a 1070 now?
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Yes, go ahead and buy one if you can fork out that kind of cash. There's no AMD card in that segment and there won't be till Vega-based cards are launched, so you'll have to pay the "NVidia tax" if you need that kind of performance today.

Though it was silly of you to wait in the first place: Polaris is the mid-range card, it's not a 1070 competitor. So it's quite dumb to be waiting for 480 benchmarks if you're in the market for 1070-like performance. I mean, by that logic, you might as well wait for 1060 benchmarks (the NVidia equivalent to the 480) in case it somehow magically comes out at near-1070 performance for $239...
 
akarypid said:
Yes, go ahead and buy one if you can fork out that kind of cash. There's no AMD card in that segment and there won't be till Vega-based cards are launched, so you'll have to pay the "NVidia tax" if you need that kind of performance today.

Though it was silly of you to wait in the first place: Polaris is the mid-range card, it's not a 1070 competitor. So it's quite dumb to be waiting for 480 benchmarks if you're in the market for 1070-like performance. I mean, by that logic, you might as well wait for 1060 benchmarks (the NVidia equivalent to the 480) in case it somehow magically comes out at near-1070 performance for $239...
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Depending on the price + performance the 1070 might actually end up looking like a good deal, not that it is, really.
 
akarypid said:
Yes, go ahead and buy one if you can fork out that kind of cash. There's no AMD card in that segment and there won't be till Vega-based cards are launched, so you'll have to pay the "NVidia tax" if you need that kind of performance today.

Though it was silly of you to wait in the first place: Polaris is the mid-range card, it's not a 1070 competitor. So it's quite dumb to be waiting for 480 benchmarks if you're in the market for 1070-like performance. I mean, by that logic, you might as well wait for 1060 benchmarks (the NVidia equivalent to the 480) in case it somehow magically comes out at near-1070 performance for $239...
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Not really, if the 480 really did overclock to fury levels, I could sacrifice the higher 1070 performance for a card of half the price. Also 1070's haven't been in stock anywhere until today.
 
If you have the money, then the 1070 seems like a solid card. I'm not sure how it stacks up against things like the 980ti though in terms of price/performance as I haven't read any reviews. I do think that Nvidia increasing the price on a REFERENCE part by calling it the founders edition just goes to show how much they play their customers though.
 
TomRL said:
Not really, if the 480 really did overclock to fury levels, I could sacrifice the higher 1070 performance for a card of half the price. Also 1070's haven't been in stock anywhere until today.
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The reference 480 will not clock that high. It lacks the voltage apparently. And the "partner solutions" that do (the ones with fancy coolers and two 6-pin / one 8-pin connector) will cost close to $300 dollars...
 
Scougar said:
If you have the money, then the 1070 seems like a solid card. I'm not sure how it stacks up against things like the 980ti though in terms of price/performance as I haven't read any reviews. I do think that Nvidia increasing the price on a REFERENCE part by calling it the founders edition just goes to show how much they play their customers though.
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Its about £100 cheaper than the 980TI was 6 months ago, and about the same performance, in reality.

So its baisically a 980TI with 8GB of GPU Buffer for £375+ (AIB)

If the 970/390 performance of the 480 is true the 1070 will be 60-65% faster for 50% more money (AIB)

I think once the supply issue is sorted out i don't see why some of them won't come down to sub £350.

i think it will be very difficult for AMD to argue £250 for AIB 480's, espesially as the 390/970's lauched at around that price.
 
It's still a little bit funny that even a 1070 is almost the cost of a 480 crossfire setup.

I'm wondering if crossfire drivers/support are going to become much, much better if the rumours about Navi are true and we basically get crossfire on an interposer. I'm not sure if this would actually work like crossfire does today, though. It could be hardware vs software level crossfire.
 
Scougar said:
If you have the money, then the 1070 seems like a solid card. I'm not sure how it stacks up against things like the 980ti though in terms of price/performance as I haven't read any reviews. I do think that Nvidia increasing the price on a REFERENCE part by calling it the founders edition just goes to show how much they play their customers though.
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They make it look real rosey in the reviews by showing it alongside stock reference 980Ti. There's a few around what show the whole truth pitting oc vs oc.
 
humbug said:
Its about £100 cheaper than the 980TI was 6 months ago, and about the same performance, in reality.

So its baisically a 980TI with 8GB of GPU Buffer for £375+ (AIB)

If the 970/390 performance of the 480 is true the 1070 will be 60-65% faster for 50% more money (AIB)

I think once the supply issue is sorted out i don't see why some of them won't come down to sub £350.

i think it will be very difficult for AMD to argue £250 for AIB 480's, espesially as the 390/970's lauched at around that price.
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The problem I have, is that the prices the 380 4gb's sell at in the states are around $225. When I look at OcUK, I see them being sold for say $150 ish. So how in the hell a card that was meant to be at MSRP of 199 (the 4GB), turn out to be so much more money? It just doesn't make sense.

Price gouging going on no matter what it's called.
 
Scougar said:
The problem I have, is that the prices the 380 4gb's sell at in the states are around $225. When I look at OcUK, I see them being sold for say $150 ish. So how in the hell a card that was meant to be at MSRP of 199 (the 4GB), turn out to be so much more money? It just doesn't make sense.

Price gouging going on no matter what it's called.
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US is 5% TAX vs 20% VAT, i think there are import duties ontop of that.

I have just looked at a very well known US Hardware retailor, MSI Gaming R9 390, $280

The same card at OcUK is £250.
 
humbug said:
Its about £100 cheaper than the 980TI was 6 months ago, and about the same performance, in reality.

So its baisically a 980TI with 8GB of GPU Buffer for £375+ (AIB)

If the 970/390 performance of the 480 is true the 1070 will be 60-65% faster for 50% more money (AIB)

I think once the supply issue is sorted out i don't see why some of them won't come down to sub £350.

i think it will be very difficult for AMD to argue £250 for AIB 480's, espesially as the 390/970's lauched at around that price.
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For the last time: 480 is at 980/390X performance. You keep repeating 970/390 in every one of your posts, but no matter how many times you say this, it's not going to become true.

Seriously now though: can you tell me what you expect of the 1060? What do you think a decent price will be for it? What level of performance will be acceptable to you? Where do you draw the line past which you will call the 1060 "a joke" and NVidia's work "a failure".

Ask yourself these questions... because that's what the 480 is! A 1060 competitor!
 
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