Ramadan 2020

The vast majority of the major cities out here in Saudi including where I live are still under 24hr Curfew so it's going to be very muted here compared to previous years which have been fantastic to see.

Have you been to the UK since we've been on lockdown? If so, how does it compare to the curfews in Saudi?
 
I think it's important, especially on a forum like this for perhaps the op to list some benefits of Muslims fasting.

Fasting fosters a strong will, teaches patience and self-discipline, the ability to bear hardship and tolerate hunger and thirst. Especially topical in this current pandemic.

There are documented medical benefits to fasting. A good way of resetting bad dietary choices.

It teaches the believer to abandon vices, to control emotions and instincts, to curb the tongue against saying what is wrong or inappropriate and the conscience against contemplating upon wrongdoing or subversion.

Remember that your fast is broken if e.g. telling a lie. Time of reflecting inwards and correcting weaknesses in your character. I'm happy to admit that I can sometimes be over critical of people. Hope to work on this over the next month and change beyond that.

The rich have to observe it as well as the poor, the women as well as the men, the influential and powerful as well as the weak and downtrodden: they all have to observe the fast. It promotes the spirit of charity and compassion towards the poor and the needy, and it reminds each believer of the needs of other people

Brings a great sense of community. Time to catch up with loved ones (even if it's over skype this year).

Ramadhan Mubarak :)
 
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Always gives me a good laugh that every single year this sort of thread comes up, you will always find a few that come in and have nothing useful to say other than hahahahaha you guys are so dumb for fasting...sky fairies hahaha etc etc.
 
Always gives me a good laugh that every single year this sort of thread comes up, you will always find a few that come in and have nothing useful to say other than hahahahaha you guys are so dumb for fasting...sky fairies hahaha etc etc.
Indeed, it needs to stop.
 
Indeed, it needs to stop.

Why? Are people not allowed to voice their opinions on it? Seems ok to take the **** out of other religions on here. Infact I remember a mod a little while back suggesting the best thing to do with bibles was to burn them.
 
Why? Are people not allowed to voice their opinions on it? Seems ok to take the **** out of other religions on here. Infact I remember a mod a little while back suggesting the best thing to do with bibles was to burn them.
Why purposefully attempt to offend others for simply holding different beliefs?

Be a great man, not a little man.
 
Why? Are people not allowed to voice their opinions on it? Seems ok to take the **** out of other religions on here. Infact I remember a mod a little while back suggesting the best thing to do with bibles was to burn them.
Why would you want to? It's disrespectful, it causes arguments and upsets people. NVP has given you an answer too!

That bible burning post you should've reported.
 
Why purposefully attempt to offend others for simply holding different beliefs?

Be a great man, not a little man.

Surely a great man turns the other cheek and just ignores what's being said instead of getting wound up? Which tbh, most of the people in here seem to do. The other option is to engage in useful debate.
What's not useful or big is to go crying or get angry because someone challenges your belief.

Why should these beliefs be any different to people's political beliefs? They're both choices, yet we see people battered down over their political choices daily. Particularly (And rightfully) Trump fans!
 
Surely a great man turns the other cheek and just ignores what's being said instead of getting wound up? Which tbh, most of the people in here seem to do. The other option is to engage in useful debate.
What's not useful or big is to go crying or get angry because someone challenges your belief.

Why should these beliefs be any different to people's political beliefs? They're both choices, yet we see people battered down over their political choices daily. Particularly (And rightfully) Trump fans!

To be fair, it's not really a choice for the vast majority of Muslims, as they are born being one.
 
Always gives me a good laugh that every single year this sort of thread comes up, you will always find a few that come in and have nothing useful to say other than hahahahaha you guys are so dumb for fasting...sky fairies hahaha etc etc.
If it hadn't been for this post, I would have respectfully kept my trap shut.
 
Have you been to the UK since we've been on lockdown? If so, how does it compare to the curfews in Saudi?

If it's anything like the UAE, you need to request a pass online from the police, you can go out once every 3 days and it has to be medical/food - around a 2k fine if you break this.
 
In Kuwait, the penalty for eating, drinking or smoking during daytime is a fine of no more than one hundred Kuwait Dinar or incarceration for no more than one month, or both. In some UAE jurisdictions, eating or drinking in public is considered a minor offence punishable by up to one hundred fifty hours of community service. Courts in Algeria have imposed fines and prison sentences for violations of Ramadan regulations. Courts in Saudi Arabia may impose harsher punishments, including flogging, imprisonment and, for non-Muslim foreigners who consume food or drink in public, deportation. In Malaysia, breaking the fast prior to sundown may result in arrest by the religious police, while the sale of food, drink, or tobacco for immediate consumption can incur a fine of up to one thousand ringgit and six months' imprisonment, penalties that are doubled for repeat offenses.

Why are we being forced in the West to treat this as if it's some kind of respectful personal choice when it's actually enforced upon countless millions, this isn't like a personal choice where freedom of choice is respected, this is the exact kind of thing anyone liberal minded should oppose
 
Why are we being forced in the West to treat this as if it's some kind of respectful personal choice when it's actually enforced upon countless millions, this isn't like a personal choice where freedom of choice is respected, this is the exact kind of thing anyone liberal minded should oppose

Examples like that only speak for those countries. Plenty of muslim countries where you can do whatever you want. Millions of Muslims in UK fast out of choice.

FYI. Depending on how religious one is. Any missed fasts - the person needs to donate a specific amount of food to the poor for each day missed (or donate equivalent amount of money to the poor). :)

The latter is in scripture. The former is man made.
 
Why? Are people not allowed to voice their opinions on it? Seems ok to take the **** out of other religions on here. Infact I remember a mod a little while back suggesting the best thing to do with bibles was to burn them.
It’s ok to mock Christianity etc with the ‘skypixies’ line and the like. It’s not ok to mock Islam.

for those participating in Ramadan, much respect. I’m currently on meds which have scuttled my appetite and I get nauseous if I eat so I’m pretty much on an enforced fast and it’s not a pleasant feeling. Fasting by choice is not something I think I could do!
 
It’s ok to mock Christianity etc with the ‘skypixies’ line and the like. It’s not ok to mock Islam.

for those participating in Ramadan, much respect. I’m currently on meds which have currently scuttled my appetite and I get nauseous if I eat so I’m pretty much on an enforced fast and it’s not a pleasant feeling. Fasting by choice is not something I think I could do!

You can mock Islam all you like. But theres a difference between mocking and debate. And when debating there's a difference between constantly looking to critique rather than looking for understanding and knowledge.

Even God in the Quran asks followers to question everything.
 
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