Ramadan Mubarak

estebanrey · 26 Jul 2012 at 20:22

On the KFC thing, all I know is my local one used have a sticker on the door and a sign inside saying their food was halal but when I wen there yesterday all that had gone.

mrk · 26 Jul 2012 at 20:29

estebanrey said:
On the KFC thing, all I know is my local one used have a sticker on the door and a sign inside saying their food was halal but when I wen there yesterday all that had gone.

What happens here is that some non Muslims who would otherwise go to these places see that food is Halal and instantly assume it must be tainted in some way and will go elsewhere!

There's a kebab shop that did this a while back, removed the signs and business picked up.

Moral of the story?

Average people are stupid.

Danthus · 26 Jul 2012 at 20:53

mrk said:
What happens here is that some non Muslims who would otherwise go to these places see that food is Halal and instantly assume it must be tainted in some way and will go elsewhere!

Is there something wrong with me not wanting to eat Halal meat?

mrk · 26 Jul 2012 at 20:55

Who knows?

The chicken tastes exactly the same either way so what bother would it be to you?

estebanrey · 26 Jul 2012 at 20:56

mrk said:
What happens here is that some non Muslims who would otherwise go to these places see that food is Halal and instantly assume it must be tainted in some way and will go elsewhere!

There's a kebab shop that did this a while back, removed the signs and business picked up.

Moral of the story?

Average people are stupid.

You almost make it sound as if there's no debate over the ethical nature of ritual slaughter.

mrk · 26 Jul 2012 at 20:58

estebanrey said:
You almost make it sound as if there's no debate over the ethical nature of ritual slaughter.

I don't care if there isn't a debate as far as my post there goes

I was merely replying to your question on why that shop most likely removed the sticker and in that context debate isn't a factor.

Danthus · 26 Jul 2012 at 20:59

mrk said:
Who knows?

The chicken tastes exactly the same either way so what bother would it be to you?

Because how it was killed matters to some.

mrk · 26 Jul 2012 at 21:00

Cool, so don't eat there then?

estebanrey · 26 Jul 2012 at 21:01

mrk said:
The chicken tastes exactly the same either way so what bother would it be to you?

Battery eggs taste the same as free range ones but I wouldn't buy anything other than free range.

mrk said:
I don't care if there isn't a debate as far as my post there goes I was merely replying to your question on why that shop most likely removed the sticker and in that context debate isn't a factor.

Well no because you also implied the reason people stopped buying it was because they were 'stupid', hence my reply.

Of course some people would have been like "I'm not buying that Muslim meat" but others may also not like the idea of eating an animal that has bled to death which is an perfectly reasonable, if debatable, position.

mrk · 26 Jul 2012 at 21:02

Stupid in the sense that they thought there was something physically wrong with the food because it was Halal, that it must be bad in some way.

I would have thought you would have figured that bit out.

estebanrey · 26 Jul 2012 at 21:03

mrk said:
Stupid in the sense that they thought there was something physically wrong with the food because it was Halal, that it must be bad in some way.

Unless you've surveyed all these people that stopped buying their food from places that advertised as Halal, that is purely conjecture.

mrk · 26 Jul 2012 at 21:04

estebanrey said:
Unless you've surveyed all these people that stopped buying their food from places that advertised as Halal, that is purely conjecture.

I'm assuming the kebab shop did their own research and got feedback from their own customers. I have stated what I heard from the kebab shop which I am talking about.

*Edit.

The very nature of the average member of the public alone kind of tells you what kind of thing goes through their head.

Jacob (: · 26 Jul 2012 at 23:06

Today I tried to fast for the first time, I just wanted to do it to understand some of the dedication and difficulties anyone doing it for a month would feel.

I went without water from midnight - 9.30pm and without food from 9pm last night until 9.30pm today.

The going without water was very hard, with it being so hot i woke up thirsty let alone after I had finished work!

Just wanted to say I have massive respect for anyone that is doing it for 30 days.

manoz · 26 Jul 2012 at 23:18

Ramadhan Mubarak to all. I was ill for the first few days so started a couple of days ago. Got the first 3 weeks off work

so am sleepin most of it off. Cheeting I know lol but working in a food place, its bloody hard, especially in this weather with hot cooking equipment and food everywhere.

LizardKing · 26 Jul 2012 at 23:30

e36Adz said:
I also remember reading an article where, I think it was a German scientist conducted several tests and concluded the Islamic/Jewish way of slaughter was the most humane. It was quite a long time ago I will try find it.

On an individual basis it may not be the worst slaughter method but the mass halal slaughter machines are something you would not wish on your worse enemy's!

That aside
Ramadhan Mubarak

Twirlywoos · 26 Jul 2012 at 23:37

Jacob (: said:
Today I tried to fast for the first time, I just wanted to do it to understand some of the dedication and difficulties anyone doing it for a month would feel.

I went without water from midnight - 9.30pm and without food from 9pm last night until 9.30pm today.

The going without water was very hard, with it being so hot i woke up thirsty let alone after I had finished work!

Just wanted to say I have massive respect for anyone that is doing it for 30 days.

You're forgetting that Muslims rinse their mouths with water 5 times a day as part of their prayer cleanliness ritual.

Narj · 26 Jul 2012 at 23:40

There must be a "Ram a Dan" gay joke in here somewhere...

But seriously, hope you are all doing well!

B&W · 26 Jul 2012 at 23:41

majnu said:
You're forgetting that Muslims rinse their mouths with water 5 times a day as part of their prayer cleanliness ritual.

Yeah but thats a small amount and most isn't swallowed especially with intention.

Twirlywoos · 26 Jul 2012 at 23:45

B&W said:
Yeah but thats a small amount and most isn't swallowed especially with intention.

I know but it's good for him to know that Muslims do rinse their mouths out with water which does help during fasts.

Also I appreciate his admiration for Muslims having to endure a strict fast. I do however like one thing from Lent which is giving up one consumable item or bad habit.

B&W · 26 Jul 2012 at 23:49

majnu said:
I know but it's good for him to know that Muslims do rinse their mouths out with water which does help during fasts.

Also I appreciate his admiration for Muslims having to endure a strict fast. I do however like one thing from Lent which is giving up one consumable item or bad habit.

hmm I dont read namaz can I still rinse my mouth? I do sometimes anyway but is it allowed.