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Raptor Lake Leaks + Intel 4 developments


Pay attention to this. Lots of good stuff in here and Xaver spent ages making sure every profile was rock stable and not just throw timings at it.
 
Raptor lake HEDT coming soon, looks like 24P cores with 225w TDP, unlocked for overclocking. Could these be the new 10980xe? Those CPUs were quite popular because they were good for gaming and could overclock really well - despite the high power draw they were also easier to cool because the cpu die area was so large and that could be the case here with HEDT running cooler than the desktop 13900k

 
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Intel have launched the new lineup

As expected every cpu consists entirely of golden cove P cores, not a single peasant E core in sight to be found. The W7-2495x is the top of the line mainstream HEDT CPU with 24 P cores and 48 threads, it has a 225w TDP and price of around $2000. It features dual channel DDR5 with up to 2TB capacity and its motherboards have 5 X PCIE Gen 5x16 ports. There are cheaper CPUs as well for users who need the lanes but don't need that many cores with the lineup starting at $359 for a 6 P core model.

It's going yo be very interesting to see how these overclock. They could be the new king for LN2 benchmarks

 
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Intel have launched the new lineup

As expected every cpu consists entirely of golden cove P cores, not a single peasant E core in sight to be found. The W7-2495x is the top of the line mainstream HEDT CPU with 24 P cores and 48 threads, it has a 225w TDP and price of around $2000. It features dual channel DDR5 with up to 2TB capacity and its motherboards have 5 X PCIE Gen 5x16 ports. There are cheaper CPUs as well for users who need the lanes but don't need that many cores with the lineup starting at $359 for a 6 P core model.

It's going yo be very interesting to see how these overclock. They could be the new king for LN2 benchmarks

Siera Forrest will be the ecore hedt / server part.

I might grab a 16 core just for scientific purposes
 
It's good that Intel has finally got some workstation products from Sapphire Rapids. But as these are workstation rather than HEDT, I will have to wait until Zen 4 TR Pro to decide what platform to go for. Looks like these products will be competing Zen 3 TR Pro, so who knows by the time Zen 4 TR Pro comes out Intel's workstation prices might have come down. The W7 2495x 24 core CPU will cost $2000, which is too much, so will need to wait. The motherboard prices will be obscene as well.
 
It's good that Intel has finally got some workstation products from Sapphire Rapids. But as these are workstation rather than HEDT, I will have to wait until Zen 4 TR Pro to decide what platform to go for. Looks like these products will be competing Zen 3 TR Pro, so who knows by the time Zen 4 TR Pro comes out Intel's workstation prices might have come down. The W7 2495x 24 core CPU will cost $2000, which is too much, so will need to wait. The motherboard prices will be obscene as well.

I think they both have the same problem in that there's no difference between a workstation and a HEDT cpu to the point they could and should just sell it as a workstation cpu for 2-3x as much.

What kind of segmentation can they create between workstation and HEDT that doesn't already exist in the segmentation of workstation cpus.

Obviously customers want workstation performance for cheaper but what features can be cut to make the company happy to do it.
 
Intel have launched the new lineup

As expected every cpu consists entirely of golden cove P cores, not a single peasant E core in sight to be found. The W7-2495x is the top of the line mainstream HEDT CPU with 24 P cores and 48 threads, it has a 225w TDP and price of around $2000. It features dual channel DDR5 with up to 2TB capacity and its motherboards have 5 X PCIE Gen 5x16 ports. There are cheaper CPUs as well for users who need the lanes but don't need that many cores with the lineup starting at $359 for a 6 P core model.

It's going yo be very interesting to see how these overclock. They could be the new king for LN2 benchmarks


Zen4 X3D should be faster, cheaper, cooler for gaming.
 
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They're Intels workstation chips not even aimed at zen4 3d/gaming

And to be honest if they dont beat zen4 desktop line Intel needs to pack up and go back to school!

To be frank I think there will be a lot of disappointment upon release of the X3d chip benchmarks. Just my opinion that is.

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Workstation CPU's have been very popular over the years for gamers also needing high core count for work applications/productivity. Not sure how you can get confused about that.

It's similar to how content creators/professionals used Titan/3090/4090 for both their gaming and professional use cases, due to sheer gaming performance and then the VRAM capacity that these offered.
 
These CPUs are mostly going to be out of range of creators who like to game. The platform cost is going to be very high (Motherboard, RAM) so it's not like the old days of the Core X series like 9980XE 10980XE. 3090s and 4090s are relative bargains.
 
The 56 core model at stock runs 2.9ghz all core and is able to beat a stock 64 core Threadripper 5995x in R23 by 8%

They briefly showed in the video how they pushed the clocks to 4.2ghz all core on water cooling but derbauer says with LN2 he can get all core closer to 5ghz. If performance scales linear that suggests he'd be able to get about a 130k in R23 which would beat the current world record by 30%.

power draw is pretty high, even just at stock it's drawing almost 500w in multithread load compared to 300w on the Threadripper so in terms of performance efficiency Intel is still well behind

 
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The 56 core model at stock runs 2.9ghz all core and is able to beat a stock 64 core Threadripper 5995x in R23 by 8%

They briefly showed in the video how they pushed the clocks to 4.2ghz all core on water cooling but derbauer says with LN2 he can get all core closer to 5ghz. If performance scales linear that suggests he'd be able to get about a 130k in R23 which would beat the current world record by 30%.

power draw is pretty high, even just at stock it's drawing almost 500w in multithread load compared to 300w on the Threadripper so in terms of performance efficiency Intel is still well behind

His numbers are from the wall, im pretty sure the cpu doesn't draw 500w stock. It's literally impossible since it's locked (at stock) to 350w. P cores are more efficient than zen 3 in cinebench R23.
 
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