Raptor Lake Leaks + Intel 4 developments

[g67575]

Go buy the 13900K, it's only £700!

Then immediately after, buy the 13900KS for >£800!

 

[g67575]

7700x is actually decent in gaming just needs to be priced better

7700 (non X)?

 

[g67575]

I don't understand why people don't pay more attention to the locked CPUs, like 13700 and the 13900. Reviewers are guilty of this also, with the 12700 and 12900. They release later, receive little attention and people lose interest.

must have us can agree that these CPUs are competitive on price, to some extent, the clock rate is irrelevant. There's always a point where pushing up the voltage starts to have diminishing returns in clock frequency, the locked processors do not suffer much /at all from this problem.

The base clocks of 6/8 core Zen 4 CPUs demonstrate this very well. 105w package power (untuned) gets you 4.5/4.7ghz, basically same clock rate as Zen 3 for less power.

 

[g67575]

I feel like x3d will give about 10% performance increase in games, they will still be behind in productivity. It's all just manipulation, same as all marketing.

People will buy them anyway, because many are mainly interested in playing games, even if they are a bit expensive. They will do this even if they can already comfortably hit 60 FPS in every game they play.

There's no real mystery to it. There's not much benefit from just increasing the core count.

Intel will release more CPUs to counter that somehow squeeze more life out of the Goldencove architecture.

The trouble is that just increasing the clock rate has limits in games, these limits have already been met with Zen 4 and Intel's 13h gen. There's still room to gain performance with extra cache, as we saw with the 5800X3D. Who knows, maybe Intel will try to increase the cache a bit further for the 14th gen?

 

[g67575]

Pleased to say that a lot of the things Intel said were true regarding Meteor Lake, as I originally highlighted here:
https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/raptor-lake-leaks.18941625/#post-35225614

Particularly a tweet, describing Meteor Lake as "a breakthrough 2023 client processor", from March 2021:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1374467303845158921

There's caveats though, because MTL desktop CPUs, just like the mobile chips will be limited to 6 cores.

BUT - Intel has a worthwhile CPU development on the new Intel 4 EUV fabrication process (originally described as 7nm) scheduled to ship this year:

Intel's Meteor Lake, Its First PC Chips With TSMC Tech, Launch This Year

'Intel 4,' TSMC 5nm and 6nm, all living in harmony in one chip.

www.tomshardware.com

These CPUs will be far more efficient than Intel's 10nm (Intel 7) based CPUs, and will feature a new CPU architecture.

So, I got this prediction wrong by about 6 months "Intel may be able to release Meteor Lake instead as the 13th generation, in late 2022 / the 1st half of 2023"...

Also, it will definitely be part of the 14th generation.

It looks like it will have taken them about 2 years to get from a fully working Meteor Lake prototype, to a desktop series ready for launch:
https://www.techspot.com/news/91906-intel-powers-first-14th-gen-meteor-lake-cpu.html