And?
You said: Yeah and it performs virtually the same as DDR4 for twice the cost.
The HUB video shows that to be completely untrue. You really should try watching it.
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And?
You said: Yeah and it performs virtually the same as DDR4 for twice the cost.
The HUB video shows that to be completely untrue. You really should try watching it.
I think most can afford to spend £100-£120 on RAM, that's a pretty typical price for a new generation of DDR (think I paid about that for DDR3 and DDR4, probably a bit more for DDR3). It doesn't have to cost a lot to get 5600 or 6000 MT/s RAM.
People with 32GB of DDR4 already might be more reluctant to upgrade to DDR5, but it probably won't take that much longer for 16GB module prices to come down. Generally though, most of the PC market still has 16GB or 8GB in total according to Steam hardware survey, so the decision is more straightforward:
People with 32GB of DDR4 already might be more reluctant to upgrade to DDR5, but it probably won't take that much longer for 16GB module prices to come down. Generally though, most of the PC market still has 16GB or 8GB in total according to Steam hardware survey, so the decision is more straightforward:
You make very flimsy arguments and ignore the actual content everyone is talking about.
Ok it performs the same for +80% the cost.And?
You said: Yeah and it performs virtually the same as DDR4 for twice the cost.
The HUB video shows that to be completely untrue. You really should try watching it.
I guess video playback is broken on your PC, then.
Have you considered upgrading to a new system - with DDR5?
Even Steve said its twice the cost of basic DDR4 in the video at @27 seconds in so I'm not sure what your all whining about.I guess video playback is broken on your PC, then.
Have you considered upgrading to a new system - with DDR5?
Watch the video again. But this time pay attention. There's a reason he chose the kits he did for comparison. See if you can spot it. Then you can come back to whine at us all.
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Maybe if you actually bothered to tell us what your stance is and what you're actually arguing about, others wouldn't be "whining" when they repeatedly prove everything you spout to be incorrect.
So come on then, if you don't want people whining, actually tell us what your point is.
I think the point is Steve is now saying DDR5 4800/40 is worth buying on Intel ADL/RPL as the cost difference isn't that large, now whether or not this applies to AMD we'll have to wait and see as its not been tested on Zen 4 yet and generally Ryzen has been more sensitive memory speeds.
If the memory controller runs 1-1 at 6000mhz then dropping the fclk down from 3000 to 2400 for 4800mhz may have a large performance hit but as I said until it's been tested we won't know.
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Zen4 Fabric controller doesn’t run at 1:1. 1800-2000.
Straight from the horses mouth, so to speak:
AMD announced DDR5-6000 as the "sweetspot" memory overclock for their next Ryzen 7000 "Zen 4" processors in its Discord AMA. In AMD language, a sweet spot frequency is an inflection of performance, stability, cost, and ease. AMD's Robert Hallock, who led the Discord AMA, suggested that FClk be left undisturbed at "Auto" for the best results.
Can see dual stick 16GB kits right now from Kingston for £126. Likely to fall even further going forwards. For Intel and AMD going forwards, DDR5 is a no-brainer now, imho.
So it is over double the price if you want the so called sweet spot although personally I'd also want more than just 16gb for a next gen platform else you'll probably end up having to upgrade the memory again.
Buy DDR4 and you will end up having to buy a motherbpard and new mewmory agaian. Think about dude. Your argument makes no sense
Plus you say double the price, put that into perspective, its £55
£55 = half a night out drinking
Yeah memory upgrades are so easy, doesn't matter much if you have to upgrade to 32gb eventually, as 16gb modules will be much cheaper by then.
I think the price of higher spec 16gb modules will come down, as demand for DDR5 increases. I haven't yet seen any games that make use of >16GB of RAM, so I'd guess the number of games that do is <1%. Most developers optimise for 8/16GB, as thats what most systems actually have.
For some, money isn't much of an issue, so 2x16GB DDR5 6000 MT/s (or above) at £200 (or more) isn't likely to be a concern at all.
I think the price of higher spec 16gb modules will come down, as demand for DDR5 increases. I haven't yet seen any games that make use of >16GB of RAM, so I'd guess the number of games that do is <1%. Most developers optimise for 8/16GB, as thats what most systems actually have.
For some, money isn't much of an issue, so 2x16GB DDR5 6000 MT/s (or above) at £200 (or more) isn't likely to be a concern at all.
I think what you're forgetting is most people that have bought a PC in the last 7 years would likely already have the DDR4.
Soldato
Your assuming that the PC its in is going to sacrifice it. It's the same argument as upgradable sockets, many people like me, build a whole new rig and the old one gets either sold or off loaded as a whole.
I've always found that if you want to skimp upgrading part by part you never get off the treadmill. I have always been a New PC every 4 years, maybe a graphics card swap mid life depending on the releases (of both games and GPUs)
Well you are making the point yourself for getting DDR5. If you machine is that old then there is no drop in upgrade so time you buy Mobo, CPU and possibly PSU you may as well buy DDR5 too especially if you are only upgrading up to every 7 years heck even 3 years. Worse case scenario you save your pennies for an extra month maybe 2 until you can aford it.
Of course if you already have ADL setup then buying DDR4 maybe is nto so important but if you already have ADL andlooking to buy RPL then you are the sort of person who likes the best and will probably upgrade the following year in which case specdinga little extra on some DDR5 is no biggie