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Raptor Lake Leaks + Intel 4 developments

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You can see why they made them tiny marks on the graph now.

Hmm it's interesting usually they show charts at its best light thinking now not sure 13600k will beat the 7600x in gaming, zen4 3d no doubt will take it to another level but AMD really need to sort the pricing

Anyway regardless it's close on both sides and doubt many play at 1080p
 
Some things to look forward to:

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It's a weird one. Not technically replacing but not sure if UX will get a 790 version. Either way, you'll be fine on Edge going forward as well. Looking at around 8400+ daily stable (tuned) around Dec timeframe.
I have the unify X atx so not looking to swap, but i loved the unify I back from z490, really sick mobo.
 
I'm curious, has anyone decided to wait for Meteor Lake (which uses the new Intel 4 process), in Q4 2023?

If so, is that because neither AMD nor Intel's products can currently offer enough of a performance uplift, in 2022?

Or, for some other reason?
 
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Both of these are false. Let's take MT performance first. What do you mean zen 4 is stealing the crown? 3 out of their 4 skus will get absolutely demolished in MT by raptorlake. Heck, half of them are already losing by alderlake. Only the 7950x will win - and im not entirely sure about that, but it's possible.

When it comes to gaming, tough luck. Only reviewers will find them identical cause they test with same memory - meaning all platforms will have to be run with 6000 ddr5. Real users will be running 7000 to 8000 ddr5 kits on their alderlake and raptorlakes, so yeah, no bueno in that either.
No neither are false. Perfromace crown speaks for itself. 7950X will win out overall in MT. That is the crown, never heard the crown refering to anything other then the winning sku.

You kept babbling on yesterday about comparing stock, i do not classify you as a real user, you are to limited, You only care about the blue brand. You know nothing of what memory overclocks will run on AM5 so you have no qualification to comment there (none of us do). You also have zero idea about how tuning Zen 4 will affect fps PBO / PBO2 / Undervolts just to start

The stock tests run by the reviewers are the baseline. Just like 13th Gen can be tweaked so can Zen 4. I have said multiple times now either platform will do most users and differencees will probably be unnoticeable to the naked eye. I do believe (just to clarify for you) 7950x will win out right in MT. I also think Zen4 3D will win in games ahead of the 13900KS, especially if the rumoured 30% uplift in games over Zen 4 is true of 3D.

Your bias is ermbarrassing, i am sure you will count by saying "no you are biased" fact is i have 2 Intel systems here along with my AMD and oneof those Intel systems will be updated to 13th gen after xmas as i love tech and tinkering with it regardless of brand, especially when both perform so well
 
Your bias is ermbarrassing, i am sure you will count by saying "no you are biased" fact is i have 2 Intel systems here along with my AMD and oneof those Intel systems will be updated to 13th gen after xmas as i love tech and tinkering with it regardless of brand, especially when both perform so well
Irrelevant how many intel systems you have. In fact, I bet a paycheck I've bought more amd systems than the average user. Heck, bought literally all of zen cpus except zen 3 :DIf im wrong in something, you can point out where im wrong, saying im biased simply means you don't like what im saying even though it's the truth.

Im pretty confident the 13900k at 350w will have the MT crown as well, so there goes that as well. As ive said before, real users won't be ram matching their intel cpus, they will be running 7000+mhz and fly past zen 4 in gaming. And im not talking about raptorlake, im talking about alderlake Raptor is a different beast :D
 
Irrelevant how many intel systems you have. In fact, I bet a paycheck I've bought more amd systems than the average user. Heck, bought literally all of zen cpus except zen 3 :DIf im wrong in something, you can point out where im wrong, saying im biased simply means you don't like what im saying even though it's the truth.

Im pretty confident the 13900k at 350w will have the MT crown as well, so there goes that as well. As ive said before, real users won't be ram matching their intel cpus, they will be running 7000+mhz and fly past zen 4 in gaming. And im not talking about raptorlake, im talking about alderlake Raptor is a different beast :D
Trying to buy very high end RAM now seems pointless and expensive (to gain a few frames, but for what?), with Meteor Lake just 1 year away.

Hardly anyone will bother, its like trying to get DDR4 5000 mt/s RAM working on Alder Lake or AM4.
 
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Irrelevant how many intel systems you have. In fact, I bet a paycheck I've bought more amd systems than the average user. Heck, bought literally all of zen cpus except zen 3 :DIf im wrong in something, you can point out where im wrong, saying im biased simply means you don't like what im saying even though it's the truth.

Im pretty confident the 13900k at 350w will have the MT crown as well, so there goes that as well. As ive said before, real users won't be ram matching their intel cpus, they will be running 7000+mhz and fly past zen 4 in gaming. And im not talking about raptorlake, im talking about alderlake Raptor is a different beast :D
lol 350w, time will tell but regardless you will never ever be wrong. You have been proven wrong multiple times over the last few days and every time you get all salty and change the rules.

I think a lot of peopel here have had 2 of teh last 3 Zen CPu's but heck for reference i was running subzero with my Mach 2 GT Compressor, A64's and oterons on DFI Lanparty boards probably before you were walking

Done with commenting on your childish nonesensical posts for now
 
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lol 350w, time will tell but regardless you will never ever be wrong. You have been proven wrong multiple times over the last few days and every time you get all salty and change the rules.

I think a lot of peopel here have had 2 of teh last 3 Zen CPu's but heck for reference i was running subzero with my Mach 2 GT Compressor, A64's and oterons on DFI Lanparty boards probably before you were walking

Done with commenting on your childish nonesensical posts for now
Claiming im wrong doesn't make me wrong. I can claim youve been proven wrong. Doesn't mean a thing. Show it or walk ;)
 
Claiming im wrong doesn't make me wrong. I can claim youve been proven wrong. Doesn't mean a thing. Show it or walk ;)
You were proven wrong yesterday when talking about the 240w r23 stock run of 12900K. You ended up throwing a hissy fit chnaging teh scope of the tests again to try and suit your needs but was called out on the bs i am not going back to get the posts though as i cannot be bothered
 
You were proven wrong yesterday when talking about the 240w r23 stock run of 12900K. You ended up throwing a hissy fit chnaging teh scope of the tests again to try and suit your needs but was called out on the bs i am not going back to get the posts though as i cannot be bothered
Ive no idea what you are talking about, post a link to something specific, else im assuming you are making things up.
 
Zen 4 vcache is going to be the best CPU for gamers. The 8 core version will be cheaper than 13th gen i9 CPUs.

RAM won't make much difference.

Enough said?
The 16900k is going to be the best CPU for gamers. You know what i mean? Yes, a newer cpu that is not going to be released for at least 6 more months is going to be better than an older cpu. Even if that is indeed the case, big whoop. Lets wait and see, and until then talk about products in the here and now?
 
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