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Raptor Lake Leaks + Intel 4 developments

The problem for the i5 is that in some games the discrepancy of the missing 2 P cores is huge (20%+, f.ex. in The Ascent) and the E cores are damn near useless in gaming. On the other hand such examples are rare, so not a big problem overall. Hard to justify x600K vs x400/F tho.
 
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Curlyriff said:
A few deffo do Civ6 reviews because read so e today.
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i meant to write some 'more' - a few sometimes do Civ6 only, that'd be like doing a video card review on PDX + civ6 games and including one graphically demanding game - quite unhelpful. I get that they need to do it for the crowds that'll click their video, but everyone knows those games are GPU bound and a new cpu might bring a couple of % better at most, yet for the games i'm talking about, the new CPU generations actually have a nice impact.
 
Miganto said:
Would be nice if some of these reviewers did actually review some CPU heavy games, like Civ or Paradox titles. I get that they review 'those that most people play' but these cpu updates each generation actually help in these types of games a lot much more than GPU generations.
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Miganto said:
i meant to write some 'more' - a few sometimes do Civ6 only, that'd be like doing a video card review on PDX + civ6 games and including one graphically demanding game - quite unhelpful. I get that they need to do it for the crowds that'll click their video, but everyone knows those games are GPU bound and a new cpu might bring a couple of % better at most, yet for the games i'm talking about, the new CPU generations actually have a nice impact.
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Well Anandtech do it in all their reviews with 480p 1080p and 4k tested and show all the CPUs along with all their other games. But I don't think you need to add like Stellaris or anything as well, it is the same principle and would be similar result. What is more interesting which isn't shown is what difference in frames and times between turns for start, mid and late game because that certainly changes things up.
 
Miganto said:
i meant to write some 'more' - a few sometimes do Civ6 only, that'd be like doing a video card review on PDX + civ6 games and including one graphically demanding game - quite unhelpful. I get that they need to do it for the crowds that'll click their video, but everyone knows those games are GPU bound and a new cpu might bring a couple of % better at most, yet for the games i'm talking about, the new CPU generations actually have a nice impact.
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AMD Zen 4 Ryzen 7 7700X and Ryzen 9 7950X Review - OC3D

Watch Dogs Legion The best of the Watch Dogs games, even if it does suffer from all the Ubisoft tropes, itâs a fantastic looking game with plenty of modern eye-candy to show off your latest purchase to both your friends and the world. Â Â
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AMD Zen 4 Ryzen 7 7700X and Ryzen 9 7950X Review - OC3D

Total Warhammer 3 Whilst nowhere near as fun to play as its predecessor â yet â the latest version of the Games Workshop IP in a Creative Assembly platform looks ridiculously attractive and so fits in here neatly.   Â
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Watchdogs : legion and warhammer III.

generally, the 7700x can be compared to the 12700K and 12900K in gaming.

The 7600X keeps up well, in Factorio:

and Spiderman too:

The 7700X's package power under load is much lower than the 12900K's also:

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138 watts vs 262 watts.
 
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Oooooooof, I might be going back to intel after a long run with amd cpus over the years! Next year though, will let platforms mature a bit and some price drops.
 
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