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Raptor Lake Leaks + Intel 4 developments

so whats that gonna translate in gaming ? when the 12700k is already high and playing above 1080p ? you just made post on AMD thread hardly worth the upgrade lol
Im just baffled that i don't read similar posts from similar people in the zen 4 thread. The same people never asked someone that wanted to upgrade from zen 3 to zen 4 "what for since the amount of cores is the same". Kinda...surprising. Or is it? :D
 
Not right away, I might in a year or so depending on how good meteor lake is looking.
If you need 4 extra e cores, go for it lol.
I'm only considering it cos its a drop in, no other reason really lol. I mean it would be nice to get a better boost clock as well as it looks like it might do 5.4 on a few cores. Be interesting to see how overclockable it will be too.
 
Im just baffled that i don't read similar posts from similar people in the zen 4 thread. The same people never asked someone that wanted to upgrade from zen 3 to zen 4 "what for since the amount of cores is the same". Kinda...surprising. Or is it? :D

its Sunday can we not, and the OP asked about 12700k to 13700k whats that got to do with AMD ? stop spamming threads please
 
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Extra ecores, extra frequency, extra cache. Bigger upgrade than amd gives usually, dont you think, since the number of cores are steady between zen models.
I would have thought the cache increase would have made the biggest difference like we have seen with the 58003dx cpu.
 
Im just wondering how is getting extra cores / cache / frequency not worth it as an upgrade when zen 3 to zen 4 is. At least for that specific user that said it

he wants to play games and you just posted this

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I think ive never said this in the past - since I kept upgrading my CPU every gen - but it's come to a point where it's actually pointless nowadays. The gaming performance on the latest CPUs (alderlake / zen 3d / zen 4) is already overkill - and since the only card that will give an actual boost over ampere is only the 4090 (not a lot of people will buy this), CPU gaming benchmarks are kinda whatever now. Even zen 3 with nicely tuned ram can keep a 3090 fed in most games, The games where you actually need the fps (competitive shooters and all that) are already running insanely fast. AFAIK warzone is the heaviest competitive fps and even my crap 11600k could do 130 fps minimum in that one - with averages at like 180+

Im at a point right now where im putting the 13900 in the basket and then remove it and then put it back. It's the first gen that I realised I don't really need the performance, my 3090 is a MAJOR bottleneck already :D
 
Im just wondering how is getting extra cores / cache / frequency not worth it as an upgrade when zen 3 to zen 4 is. At least for that specific user that said it

Ive seen the difference uplift in gaming from zen3 to zen4 , look at the 5800x to 7700x ??? pretty sure we wont see the same uplift from Alder lake to Raptor lake in gaming between 12700k to 13700k to justify the upgrade when the 12700k already performs great, does the OP play at higher than 1080p ??

I wouldnt either go from Zen3 to Zen4 with how much the platform costs switching over untill maybe when b650e boards are lower in price and 3d version is out and strickly talking for gaming
 
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Ive seen the difference uplift in gaming from zen3 to zen4 , look at the 5800x to 7700x ??? pretty sure we wont see the same uplift from Alder lake to Rapter lake in gaming between 12700k to 13700k to justify the upgrade when the 12700k already performs great, does the OP play at higher than 1080p ??

I wouldnt either go from Zen3 to Zen4 with how much the platform costs switching over untill maybe when b650e boards are lower in price and 3d version is out and strickly talking for gaming
Mainly 1440p ultrawide tbh so i would say im more gpu bound than cpu? Hard with 1440p as its in kinda in the middle but more cpu side i think?


Plus Zen4 is DDR5 only which is a huge cost on its own.
 
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he wants to play games and you just posted this

BENCHER
I think ive never said this in the past - since I kept upgrading my CPU every gen - but it's come to a point where it's actually pointless nowadays. The gaming performance on the latest CPUs (alderlake / zen 3d / zen 4) is already overkill - and since the only card that will give an actual boost over ampere is only the 4090 (not a lot of people will buy this), CPU gaming benchmarks are kinda whatever now. Even zen 3 with nicely tuned ram can keep a 3090 fed in most games, The games where you actually need the fps (competitive shooters and all that) are already running insanely fast. AFAIK warzone is the heaviest competitive fps and even my crap 11600k could do 130 fps minimum in that one - with averages at like 180+

Im at a point right now where im putting the 13900 in the basket and then remove it and then put it back. It's the first gen that I realised I don't really need the performance, my 3090 is a MAJOR bottleneck already :D
Yeah, but that has nothing to do with the actual jump between 12th and 13th gen. Being ironic about the 13th gen offering extra cores (besides the cache and clocks) seemed funny to me, considering weve been on the same amount of cores for the last i don't even know how many years on amd
 
Mainly 1440p ultrawide tbh so i would say im more gpu bound than cpu? Hard with 1440p as its in kinda in the middle but more cpu side i think?


Plus Zen4 is DDR5 only which is a huge cost on its own.

Just have to wait for 3rd party reviews and decide if its worth it for you and Id look at the 1440p stuff no doubt the reviews will be with the 4090
 
Just have to wait for 3rd party reviews and decide if its worth it for you and Id look at the 1440p stuff no doubt the reviews will be with the 4090
I mean in theory it shouldn't be that painful of an upgrade if you're already on the platform anyway. I'm sure i could probably sell the 12700k for 350-400 on the used market.

But yeah lets see what the reviews say first, quite intrigued with the 13900k and its 5.8ghz boost clock.
 
Im just baffled that i don't read similar posts from similar people in the zen 4 thread. The same people never asked someone that wanted to upgrade from zen 3 to zen 4 "what for since the amount of cores is the same". Kinda...surprising. Or is it? :D
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1st reason, Upgrading from Zen 3 to Zen 4 was a platform upgrtade as much as a CPU upgrade. Give extra NVME, PCIE Gen 5 and DRR5 with socket lingevity to boot

2nd and most important reason, No one could discuss it cause the thread was a mess filled with your tripe
 
I am really biting at the bit to get a decent comparison between the latest Gen for Intel and AMD, I've always been Intel, almost pulled the trigger on AMD last week but doing my best to not be so hasty..
 
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