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RDNA 3 rumours Q3/4 2022

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Bill Turnip said:
For me, the key for AMD is probably price more than performance - If it is a more powerful card, they will charge the premium for it. They don't need the outright top level performance, they need to be available for a greater proportion of gamers. People pushing 4K60fps plus are in a (growing) minority, but a solid 4k60fps in the majority of games, (there will always be outliers) at the mid range should be the target still for this gen, I think. Have the halo card aim higher, but if the 7700 is able to get there without ridiculous prices, they could be on to a winner.
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I don't know why AMD wouldn't produce a killer in the mid-range. They can do it; they're not going to knock Nvidia off the top either. I'd be 100% aiming to take the market by targeting the majority in the middle.
 
gpuerrilla said:
You have appreciate that if anyone has a card above a 3070 your not going to be blown away in the £500-700 bracket. Unless your going for the current £1200 with nvidia your paying a hell of a lot for not much gain.

So we have to assume people that still have money in their sky rockets wanting upgrades that cannot afford/will not bite at ngreedia top tier, are now scoping out what Radeon has to offer. This is where they can launch a RX7800 which could smash a 4060Ti whatever the unlaunched is called and the 4070 on both price and performance right between where these products will be placed.
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That's exactly it. nV has set it so price/performance has not moved a cm this gen -- and no doubt AMD will stick to this pricing model with RDNA3. £500 spent two months ago will net you nearly the same performance as £500 spent in Q1. And that's kinda the point: nV and AMD want to smooth the rate at which prices for their products fluctuate, as well as raise them across the board.
 
TheOracle said:
I said HDR in windows is a joke. You can only enable it when at 4k res, so if you want ultrawide you just have to hope the game supports a resolution not set in windows. Luckily horizon zero dawn does, which looks fantastic.

What I mean is that the HDR toggle in windows won't work unless the res is 3840x2160. That's fine if you want to play games in 16x9, but not if you want ultrawide like 3840x1620. That means games need to be able to change res themselves, and not all can. I have one game (can't remember the name) which will only work in ultrawide if you set it in windows, thus no HDR.
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This is not true. I game at 3840x1600 and it is there. I would factory reset you drivers and have another look.
 
Bill Turnip said:
This is interesting, I'm a little out of the CPU loop. Will definitely look into this.
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It is true. Whilst R&D etc have to be accounted for, to charge high when the product is dominant is acceptable, however if you look at the past two ryzen gens they are not winning by any margin yet the product stack is a good % more. The only thing it has done is forced intel to be better/try harder. When motherboards are expensive too, you have to question more into what your outlaying now.
 
Grim5 said:
Kope says the top RDNA 3 mobile GPU has same performance as RTX3090/6900XT

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The rumour is that Navi 33 will also be used for mobile and desktop.

If navi 31 is the 7900xt, navi 32 is 7800xt then navi 31 is at most 7700xt. Looking good on the performance standpoint. I’m concerned that the 7800xt is going to get a £100 price increase since Nvidia isn’t there to keep AMD in check
 
TheOracle said:
What wunkley said worked. He is right, non-native res in Windows (on some monitors) won't activate HDR.

I assume your 3440x1440 is the native res of your monitor. That's not what we're talking about.
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What is the reason for not using native res in OS? Sounds weird
 
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Chuk_Chuk said:
The rumour is that Navi 33 will also be used for mobile and desktop.

If navi 31 is the 7900xt, navi 32 is 7800xt then navi 31 is at most 7700xt. Looking good on the performance standpoint. I’m concerned that the 7800xt is going to get a £100 price increase since Nvidia isn’t there to keep AMD in check
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N32 is x800 in 4MCD 16GB config and x700 in 3MCD 12GB config.

N33 is x600 which is obvious if you look at the fact it is an 8GB 128bit card with a lower BOM than the 6600XT but with enough performance to sell for $400-450 and still have a good perf/$ improvement.

According to bonedrewd at B3D the laptop part that matched 6950XT is N32 in a 150W envelope.
 
timorous said:
N32 is x800 in 4MCD 16GB config and x700 in 3MCD 12GB config.

N33 is x600 which is obvious if you look at the fact it is an 8GB 128bit card with a lower BOM than the 6600XT but with enough performance to sell for $400-450 and still have a good perf/$ improvement.

According to bonedrewd at B3D the laptop part that matched 6950XT is N32 in a 150W envelope.
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What???? that's impressive!
 
humbug said:
In gaming the reference RX 6950XT is 341 watts.

That would make N32M a 127% higher performance per watt, that bodes extremely well for N32 and N31 on Desktop. I would not be surprised to see the N31 dGPU match the 4090 at 300 to 350 watts.
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Let me get this right, you think the 7700XT is going to match the 4090?
 
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