Relational issues...

Gaygle said:
Overdosing on alcohol = generally being sick, getting a taxi home and feeling horrendous in the morning.

Overdosing on cocaine = heart/respiratory problems, getting an ambulance to the hospital, not waking up.
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I'm assuming you've never "overdosed" on alcohol by that response.
 
Sp00n said:
I'm assuming you've never "overdosed" on alcohol by that response.
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Overdose said:
The term drug overdose (or simply overdose or OD) describes the ingestion or application of a drug or other substance in quantities greater than are recommended or generally practiced. An overdose is widely considered harmful and dangerous as it can result in death.
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Your assumption would be incorrect, i have drank to excess many times before. And many of the times i have - the result has been as i previously described.
 
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Robboftw said:
Interesting how the parties in question choose to ignore your post like this one once you have blown them out of the water.

Nicely done, I cant stand (illegal) drug users.
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Eh or it could be that he made a valid point no point in arguing?
I was never saying drugs weren't bad etc etc. Just saying its not the be all and end all of badness.

Drugs are bad in excess, alcohol is bad in excess, but don't have to be the worst thing ever if you are responsible..
/off-topic part of thread.

back to relationship advice?
 
Robboftw said:
Nicely done, I cant stand (illegal) drug users.
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Why, what is it exactly that you cannot stand?

I have far more negative thoughts about drunken louts who start fights, than a decent person who happens to enjoy a personal past-time that the government has deemed to be evil.
 
Psy-Blade said:
UPDATE:

Some of you guys aren't reading the whole thread ( I don't blame you), so here's an update.

After some good advice here I'm not going to be present when she try's it. I've figured out I'm more worried to lose her to a world of drugs than for her to try it. I have no irrational fear of drugs, I have friends who take them, and that doesn't bother me at all. I'm going to stop pushing her away and instead help her explore what she wants to explore. I've told her this now, but I've also told her that if it goes to far I can't carry on. I'm not going to ditch her to ruin her life, but I'll help her if and when I can, but not as her boyfriend.

She seems OK about this, the idea of her trying it at home and not a huge party was hers, and she's happy for this to happen still. She's not going to jump into anything now, and as a result of our 'rut' she'll try and put it off until we're back on our usual rails.
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I can understand your irrational fear of her doing -*DRUGZ*- but MDMA is pretty harmless by and large. Be cool bro, she's going to run a mile and is completely right to do so if you are stopping her enjoying these kinds of things while she is young.
 
This is one of those issues like religion with people strongly opposed on both sides and never gets a good or any outcome at all usually. Just ends when people can't be bothered hitting refresh, have work to do, or go back to getting high again and just forget:D
 
OldCoals said:
So if cocaine was legalised then you would no longer have an issue with it?
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Not as big of an issue, but as things stand it is considered more dangerous than an equal level of alcohol intake, so it won't be made legal.

krooton said:
Why, what is it exactly that you cannot stand?

I have far more negative thoughts about drunken louts who start fights, than a decent person who happens to enjoy a personal past-time that the government has deemed to be evil.
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I also have negative thoughts about those people, they aren't much better.
 
Robboftw said:
Interesting how the parties in question choose to ignore your post like this one once you have blown them out of the water.

Nicely done, I cant stand (illegal) drug users.
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In the circles I party in, Alcohol is positively frowned upon. If there is any trouble going on, sickness or aggression etc. It is always the fault of alcohol. Everyone will be partying in a civilised manner then you have the uneducated primates stumbling around on alcohol (terrible drug) throwing up and starting fights, falling over and lying in the road. And they're the type that complain about the illegal drugs. I might be on Class A drugs (as mentioned, there are differences, I don't touch cocaine/crack/heroin), and see drunk people and just think what animals they are.

The amount of money spent on fixing broken noses and livers from institutionalised alcohol abuse is obscene, and alcohol itself encourages a dumbing down of the mind as opposed to any sense of enlightenment, connection and love.

So just know ignorant drinkers, some drug users look down on you ;).
 
Holy **** if you are taking the same amount of cocaine gram for gram as alcohol then yeh your pretty much screwed...
 
Cocaine and so on ARE more dangerous than Alcohol, yes Alcohol is bad if you use it excessively also, but the effects of some illegal drugs can be far more devastating as Gaygle has already explained.

There is a reason they are illegal, anyone using illegal drugs is almost only doing so to 'be cool' and 'rebel against the system'.

I will never have any respect for a person who has taken illegal drugs (some cases may be exceptions), its not big, and its not clever (just like binge drinking isn't either).

Anyway, back on topic ;)
 
Robboftw said:
I also have negative thoughts about those people, they aren't much better.
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So why does someone doing something that doesn't impact another person generate such hatred from you? Because it's dangerous?

You do know that statistically speaking, riding a hose is more dangerous than doing ecstasy. Do you have an irrational hatred for horse riders as well?

Because the government told me it is dangerous is a poor basis for hatred.
 
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