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jordyGFC said:
You act like this is the first time short strand have been involved in this rioting.
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Nobodys denying the Short Strand have been active in the rioting, on quite a few occasions its been reported that loyalists were basically goading it to occur chanting slogans and songs as they were passing.

As for that video, im fairly sure thats taking the events of a few days and combining it into 1 to present a skewed picture of what actually occured. IIRC some houses on the Strand were attacked the Day before, then we have Loyalists trotting down the road the next day (armed with camera men conveniently enough) fully in the knowledge some retaliation could be dished out because of the previous days events. So they get to record themselves being attacked while maintaining (for once) a squeaky clean image.
 
Gerard said:
Nobodys denying the Short Strand have been active in the rioting, on quite a few occasions its been reported that loyalists were basically goading it to occur chanting slogans and songs as they were passing.

As for that video, im fairly sure thats taking the events of a few days and combining it into 1 to present a skewed picture of what actually occured. IIRC some houses on the Strand were attacked the Day before, then we have Loyalists trotting down the road the next day (armed with camera men conveniently enough) fully in the knowledge some retaliation could be dished out because of the previous days events. So they get to record themselves being attacked while maintaining (for once) a squeaky clean image.
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Actually Gerard, its not. Its is all yesterdays footage and it is all the truth.
 
Gerard said:
Sure it is. And from a very reliable source "young loyalist". :rolleyes:
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The video is nothing to do with me so don't imply it is. The first clip is from today's official sinn fein video. The second is ALL from this CNN video. (HERE)
 
jordyGFC said:
The video is nothing to do with me so don't imply it is. The first clip is from today's official sinn fein video. The second is ALL from this CNN video. (HERE)
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Whos implying it is from you? Paranoia at its finest. :D Just have to look at some facebook pages and news reports to see who's causing 99.9% of the trouble, find it amusing that "pro flag" facebook pages have pics of loyalists breaking up paving slabs to throw at the cops. Peaceful protests you say?
 
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Gerard said:
Whos implying it is from you? Paranoia at its finest. :D
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Paranoia? Or the fact that you say "young loyalist" which is nothing to do with the video and sounded to me like you were hinting at something. But you wouldn't do that Gerard surely? ;)
 
jordyGFC said:
Paranoia? Or the fact that you say "young loyalist" which is nothing to do with the video and sounded to me like you were hinting at something. But you wouldn't do that Gerard surely? ;)
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Thats the name of the youtube channel its from, "young unionist". Very unbiased source of info that.
 
Funny how these "peaceful protesters" all seem to come tooled up with masks isn't it? Could it be they know theyre gonna cause some **** to hit the fan hence the masks? nah couldn't be that surely. :rolleyes:
 
jordyGFC said:
Considering the 2 videos used are from sinn fein and CNN I doubt it can be disregarded.
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Again, missing the point (shocker), its not the videos but the manner in which they were edited, which obviously goes to try and put a Loyalist " we did nothing" slant on things when its obvious they did.
 
Gerard said:
Again, missing the point (shocker), its not the videos but the manner in which they were edited, which obviously goes to try and put a Loyalist " we did nothing" slant on things when its obvious they did.
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What, in your opinion, do you think the peaceful protesters did wrong then?
 
jordyGFC said:
Where does it say they charged police?
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Sorry. Charged away from the determined route which would have kept everyone happy and towards a green area with hood over their faces. In simple terms they went out of their way looking for trouble.

Through a series of meetings organised with the aim of minimising risk to both protestors and interface residents and minimising disruption to traffic, police made all parties aware that any movement of people out of the city would be via a preferred route, namely the Queen Elizabeth II Bridge and Middlepath Street, thereby bypassing part of the Short Strand.

Protestors outside City Hall were advised by police that this was the direction of travel for any people returning to the east of the city. The body of protestors moved down Victoria Street and attempted to cross the Queen’s Bridge which had been closed by police.

Marshalls were engaging with police at the police line on Queen’s Bridge when the vast majority of the crowd broke away and ran down Oxford Street splitting at Lanyon Place. Some individuals ran along the Laganbank Road while others ran along East Bridge Street. At this stage many put on masks and covered their faces.

The police came under attack from bricks, stones and missiles. As the protestors approached the Short Strand, there was violence across the interface with missiles being thrown by rival factions, which resulted in a number of properties being damaged in the Short Strand.
 
Mitzy said:
Sorry. Charged away from the determined route which would have kept everyone happy and towards a green area with hood over their faces. In simple terms they went out of their way looking for trouble.

Through a series of meetings organised with the aim of minimising risk to both protestors and interface residents and minimising disruption to traffic, police made all parties aware that any movement of people out of the city would be via a preferred route, namely the Queen Elizabeth II Bridge and Middlepath Street, thereby bypassing part of the Short Strand.

Protestors outside City Hall were advised by police that this was the direction of travel for any people returning to the east of the city. The body of protestors moved down Victoria Street and attempted to cross the Queen’s Bridge which had been closed by police.

Marshalls were engaging with police at the police line on Queen’s Bridge when the vast majority of the crowd broke away and ran down Oxford Street splitting at Lanyon Place. Some individuals ran along the Laganbank Road while others ran along East Bridge Street. At this stage many put on masks and covered their faces.

The police came under attack from bricks, stones and missiles. As the protestors approached the Short Strand, there was violence across the interface with missiles being thrown by rival factions, which resulted in a number of properties being damaged in the Short Strand.
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No as you can clearly see in the video, the police blocked the bridge with no discussion had. The protesters had no option other than do go the other way. They did not run away but were simply told to go the other way in a stupid move again.
 
jordyGFC said:
What, in your opinion, do you think the loyalists did wrong then?
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Its quite obvious what they did wrong, they goaded and attacked the Short Strand on a few days and nights previous. Then they go down that way past the Strand to try and rub peoples noses in it with their little flags, not a bit of wonder some people started tossing stuff at them.

Its already been stated in the Police report they intentionally went down that way so it was obvious from the outset they done it to provoke a response, and im not surprised they got one especially when people seen a pack of loyalists with Flags and masks on heading their direction.
 
This will be my final post on the matter. I could show you written statements and you still would tell me otherwise. The fact of the matter is that the video is a perfect example of the ongoing attack on the PUL communities by sinn fein / IRA.

Goodnight ladies.

P.s I hope you enjoyed your Chinese Gerard.
 
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