I did, why are you letting your work place give you a pay cut?
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I did, why are you letting your work place give you a pay cut?
Some places can't afford to and similar. The housing market downturn already has caused hundreds of housing projects to grind to a hauly for a start. That affects everyone in the construction industry. One company I know has just laid off 10% staff. Another is going 4 day week with reduced hours etc.
So a pay rise is almost certainly not going to be happening this year for most of the people in that sector.
Didn't those companies set aside some of the 7Bn they made during the pandemic to look after the staff and smooth things over during a down turn?
Or is it more of a case of pocket all the profits in the good times and short change the workers in the bad times?
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Pocket the money, bonuses to bosses and investment groups. They will put things on hold to keep currents prices driven higher than expected in the down turn and pump then out at the next peek.
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That's just reality. The tech sector aren't giving big payrises. In fact a lot of the big players are going through a lot of redundancies after recruiting during covid.
I accept some sectors will still do well during a recession and can afford to give their staff an inflation level payrise. But you'd be very naive to think that all private sector employers can.
@Malt_Vinegar did you mean to delete mine or @A2Z s post? I thought I was pretty on topic in terms of companies giving employees a raw deal and we should be behind the workers fighting back rather than the big companies exploiting them.
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Thanks for letting us know.
If the baldy ******* (alliteration I know) who constitute the typical union fat cat are calling their members out over the difference between 10% and 9% impacting only the general public, then their members will have to abide by the consequences.
It is not 1970, if you want to send a card or letter use email, send money use PayPal, Bank transfer etc. A parcel? Use any one of half a dozen couriers who will pick up on your doorstep or at a convenient local store.
No more Saturday deliveries? Well it is another nail in their coffin and there will be others who can.
I can't help but agree with this, it's in a similar vein to rail strikes. There are alternatives, and if you **** off your customers, or make the service so unreliable it's not fit for purpose, then they will move to those alternatives.
While I also agree that they should be paid more and striking is sometimes the only way to achieve that, i can't help but feel that all they are really doing is working towards causing their own redundancies.
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Yeah thats all well and good. Maybe you should speak to the government or RM about it and stop blaming the workers because they are in a union.
Union fat cats lol. You people are hopeless.
I'm not blaming the workers - however do you believe that Royal Mail workers will continue to be employed by Royal Mail if Royal Mail ceases to exist because all of their customers have moved to competitors?
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Mate you vote Tory give it a rest. People like you have voted for a party that has trashed this country while making most people poorer and you want to go on about workers in unions trying to get a decent payrise.
Not aimed at Haggisman if they didnt vote Tory.
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Well the government does not seem to care. The rail operators and the unions had a deal to stop the rail strikes but the government told the rail operators you are not allowed to make an offer and pulled the plug on it.
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@Haggisman For some reason I thought your post was from Hagar. If you didnt vote for either brexit or the Tories then that posts isnt aimed at you.
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What I should have said was that is the fault of RM not the workers. It is RM that is causing issues those are the people you should be annoyed at. It isnt the workers fault if management cant sort their act out.
The money is there, it should go to the workers instead of bonuses for those making life harder for normal workers.
Phew, I was very insulted for a moment there! Definitely did not vote Tory, and given their performance over the last few years, I think I would need to have my head examined (or caved in) if I ever did do so! As for Brexit... if I was to post what I really thought of it and those who voted for it, I would most likely end up banned/on a police watch list.
I'm not trying to pass judgement on any of the parties involved, just making a pragmatic observation on the long term impact of failing to provide the service which people are paying for, when alternatives to that service exist. My other half commutes by train, and over the last few months almost 20% of her journeys have been disrupted by either strikes, or the usual poor standard of punctuality and reliability.
She's seriously considering changing her rail season ticket for a bus one, because although the bus journey is twice as long, she actually gets there quicker on average, since they actually bother to turn up 99% of the time, and even when they don't, it's not such a big issue because there's another one due in ~7 mins. It's also significantly cheaper (£40/month for the bus, vs £65/month for the train + £4/day when she ends up having to take the bus anyway).
While in isolation 1 person making the change isn't going to make a difference, the worse the service is, the more people are going to switch to alternatives - this snowballs as there is less money to improve the service, until it gets to the point that providing the service is no longer economically viable. The same can be applied to RM, as @Hagar says, there are plenty of alternatives, email, couriers etc.
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While I agree with the sentiment the trains were awfull even before or without the strikes. The terrible service is usually down to bad managment and yes they really need to get their acts together. I am fairly sure in the recent years there were calls from travelers to strike against the rail services.
Oh yeah, definitely, but it was usually the case that most services were running (albeit late), and just the odd service here and there that was completely cancelled. More recently it's been 2-3 days in a row of no services at all, followed by another day or 2 of disruption as everything settles back down.