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Yeah I wouldn't have even considered it at £650 but as you say, at £475 it isn't a terrible buy. I really liked the simple look of the Dolomites I tried but I haven't seen the matt silver in the flesh yet, I'm sure it will be fine though.

I'll take on board what you are saying about the tyres but I'll probably keep it as is just to start with. TBH at the moment I wouldn't know a good road tyre from a bad one and my hybrid has Kenda's so I'm used to their plastic compound :p As soon as I know if/what I'm doing with guards I can decide about tyres (AFAIK 28's won't fit with guards).
 
Yeah I wouldn't have even considered it at £650 but as you say, at £475 it isn't a terrible buy. I really liked the simple look of the Dolomites I tried but I haven't seen the matt silver in the flesh yet, I'm sure it will be fine though.

I'll take on board what you are saying about the tyres but I'll probably keep it as is just to start with. TBH at the moment I wouldn't know a good road tyre from a bad one and my hybrid has Kenda's so I'm used to their plastic compound :p As soon as I know if/what I'm doing with guards I can decide about tyres (AFAIK 28's won't fit with guards).

Yeah, I wondered about that wording in the description - 28s *or* guards. Very odd. Personally I'd go 25s + guards :)

The tyre suggestion isn't just from a feeling nicer/faster point of view btw. The Pro4s will have far superior grip in the wet so you're less likely to come off your bike (this happened to a friend of mine on one of his first rides on his new bike, damaging one of the shifters). I guess if you're already used to the plastic Kendas you're less likely to have this issue though. I don't want to sound like I'm pressuring you (though I totally am) but you could potentially save money by getting them to build the bike for you with better tyres - they will often offset the cost of the upgrade against the money they save by not building in the other tyres.
 
Sounds like topgun has you covered but I'm happy to weigh in too :)

Last time I went up to the Goyt I came from north of it so I went up through the brickworks - going through Kettleshulme is nice too if you work out the route right. Once you're through the Goyt then Cat and Fiddle is pretty much mandatory :p After that parts of Macc Forest are nice and from there I guess you could go into Alderely. At this point you're moving further and further away from the peaks though.

Snake Pass is much further north but cycling around that area can be very fun (assuming you avoid anything like rush hour).

I'm not sure how many days you've got and/or how hardcore you want to make the rides but I'd be tempted by a loop that is Brickworks > Goyt > Buxton > North towards Whaley Bridge > Chapel-en-le-Frith > Edale > Hope Valley > er... somewhere :p

Are you planning on doing something like staying in Buxton and then heading out from there or somewhere else?

Thank you kindly for that. Sounds good. I think we will try and make a weekend of it. Buxton looks a reasonable location for a base but I dont' know the area too well.

Did any of you see this on Bike Radar Classifieds. Gorgeous frame

http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=40090&t=13018070

Poor bloke has to sell it :(
 
Hmm..I'm just getting a generic BR page. Do you have to be signed in to see that?

If you're making a weekend of it I definitely recommend one day going West/South (and then back to Buxton) and a second day going North/East. That way you'll get to experience all the best bits without having to do a particularly strange/arduous route :)
 
Hmm..I'm just getting a generic BR page. Do you have to be signed in to see that?

If you're making a weekend of it I definitely recommend one day going West/South (and then back to Buxton) and a second day going North/East. That way you'll get to experience all the best bits without having to do a particularly strange/arduous route :)

Yeah - its on the Classifieds
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Totally open minded. Just want to see some different parts if the country this year vs the same old routes. I am a bit disillusioned with the price of Sportives and would rather spend a few quid on an overnight and some decent riding.

FrenchTart has a very good shout with:

I'm not sure how many days you've got and/or how hardcore you want to make the rides but I'd be tempted by a loop that is Brickworks > Goyt > Buxton > North towards Whaley Bridge > Chapel-en-le-Frith > Edale > Hope Valley > er... somewhere :p

Hope valley is beautiful. I've not cycled around there, but have been on several walks/visits to the area.

I've mocked up a few crazy routes but it gives you an idea...

I've pretty much done a B-line for every hill in the area but: https://app.strava.com/routes/1498168

Mile 4-5: Gun Hill. A popular hill in the area. The TOB went up it 2 years ago. You can see Merseyside and Snowdonia from here on a good day.
Mile 9-11: Wincle. A small village. Small brewery at the bottom which does some nice beers. Probably couldn't fit many in your jersey pockets though.
Mile 11-17: An enjoyable down hill into Macclesfield. Plenty of Cafes in Macc, probably plenty of places to stay.
Mile 17-21: If you carry along the A537 it is the Cat and Fiddle. Probably the longest climb in the area. Around 30mins for a fit cyclist.

I deviated off to include the Goyt ...

Mile 27-30: A lovely steady climb up through the Goyt along a one way road. Finishes up at the top of the Cat and Fiddle.

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Like 38-40: Longnor and Crowdecote

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A windy climb up the edge of the hill. Longnor is a small village, a few nice cafes and pubs.
Mile 45-50: A steady downhill into the Manifold valley. The Cafe at Wetton Mill is ideal for a snack. On a nice day you could fall asleep lying on the grass by the river.
Mile 49.5-50.5: Wetton Road. Very steep. You climb up out of the valley so quickly. Not particularly interesting, but you concentrate more on staying upright to care!
Mile 53-56: One of my personal favourites in the area, the climb up through Lower and Higher Elkestone. I don't know what it is but there is something about it which I enjoy. Completing it gives a great sense of achievement.
Mile 65: Heading out of the Peaks now. But here is Cheddleton railway. From mile 61 to here is pretty much downhill, quite fast and fun.
Mile 73-77: Pretty much a hill up to Lask Edge/Biddulph Moor. Views from here can be impressive on a good day.


Another route: https://app.strava.com/routes/1498718
This route covers the whole of the Cat and Fiddle and then heads out to Bakewell. Home of the Bakewell Tart apparently. A nice little village with plenty of Cafes.
Mile 58-51: A particularly steep climb up to Grindon. The road can be a little rough at times. But a definite challenge.


I'd definitely recommend the Goyt, Cat and Fiddle, Hope Valley and the area around Bakewell and Longnor.

In terms of places to stay you have Leek, Macclesfiled, Buxton. Even Ashbourne to the south Peak District is nice. Ilam and Dovedale near Ashbourne are especially beautiful places to cycle. A Premier Inn has opened up in Leek recently which could be handy. Staying in Buxton would give you greater access to the north so probably the best bet.
 
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Yeah, I wondered about that wording in the description - 28s *or* guards. Very odd. Personally I'd go 25s + guards :)

The tyre suggestion isn't just from a feeling nicer/faster point of view btw. The Pro4s will have far superior grip in the wet so you're less likely to come off your bike (this happened to a friend of mine on one of his first rides on his new bike, damaging one of the shifters). I guess if you're already used to the plastic Kendas you're less likely to have this issue though. I don't want to sound like I'm pressuring you (though I totally am) but you could potentially save money by getting them to build the bike for you with better tyres - they will often offset the cost of the upgrade against the money they save by not building in the other tyres.

Yeah I would be rather narked to drop my new bike! My shoulder is still playing me up after my off last summer but I'm not sure how much of that I can blame on my tyres :p I may well give them a bell. Even if they won't offset the cost of the Kenda's I can just sell them on I guess.
 
FrenchTart has a very good shout with:



Hope valley is beautiful. I've not cycled around there, but have been on several walks/visits to the area.

I've mocked up a few crazy routes but it gives you an idea...

I've pretty much done a B-line for every hill in the area but: https://app.strava.com/routes/1498168

Mile 4-5: Gun Hill. A popular hill in the area. The TOB went up it 2 years ago. You can see Merseyside and Snowdonia from here on a good day.
Mile 9-11: Wincle. A small village. Small brewery at the bottom which does some nice beers. Probably couldn't fit many in your jersey pockets though.
Mile 11-17: An enjoyable down hill into Macclesfield. Plenty of Cafes in Macc, probably plenty of places to stay.
Mile 17-21: If you carry along the A537 it is the Cat and Fiddle. Probably the longest climb in the area. Around 30mins for a fit cyclist.

I deviated off to include the Goyt ...

Mile 27-30: A lovely steady climb up through the Goyt along a one way road. Finishes up at the top of the Cat and Fiddle.
Like 38-40: Longnor and Crowdecote

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A windy climb up the edge of the hill. Longnor is a small village, a few nice cafes and pubs.
Mile 45-50: A steady downhill into the Manifold valley. The Cafe at Wetton Mill is ideal for a snack. On a nice day you could fall asleep lying on the grass by the river.
Mile 49.5-50.5: Wetton Road. Very steep. You climb up out of the valley so quickly. Not particularly interesting, but you concentrate more on staying upright to care!
Mile 53-56: One of my personal favourites in the area, the climb up through Lower and Higher Elkestone. I don't know what it is but there is something about it which I enjoy. Completing it gives a great sense of achievement.
Mile 65: Heading out of the Peaks now. But here is Cheddleton railway. From mile 61 to here is pretty much downhill, quite fast and fun.
Mile 73-77: Pretty much a hill up to Lask Edge/Biddulph Moor. Views from here can be impressive on a good day.


Another route: https://app.strava.com/routes/1498718
This route covers the whole of the Cat and Fiddle and then heads out to Bakewell. Home of the Bakewell Tart apparently. A nice little village with plenty of Cafes.
Mile 58-51: A particularly steep climb up to Grindon. The road can be a little rough at times. But a definite challenge.


I'd definitely recommend the Goyt, Cat and Fiddle, Hope Valley and the area around Bakewell and Longnor.

In terms of places to stay you have Leek, Macclesfiled, Buxton. Even Ashbourne to the south Peak District is nice. Ilam and Dovedale near Ashbourne are especially beautiful places to cycle. A Premier Inn has opened up in Leek recently which could be handy. Staying in Buxton would give you greater access to the north so probably the best bet.

Awesome - totally appreciate the effort in doing this. Will plan it with a couple of buddies tomorrow. Thanks again
 
Yeah I would be rather narked to drop my new bike! My shoulder is still playing me up after my off last summer but I'm not sure how much of that I can blame on my tyres :p I may well give them a bell. Even if they won't offset the cost of the Kenda's I can just sell them on I guess.

Worth a try definitely :) There are other tyre options in that price range if they can't provide the Pro4s. Ask them what brands they can get in and I'm sure someone will have a good suggestion for you.

Awesome - totally appreciate the effort in doing this. Will plan it with a couple of buddies tomorrow. Thanks again

Me too actually - there are several routes in there that I've not done and areas I haven't visited. I'll be changing that in the very near future now I think :)

When are you planning on doing your rides btw? I'm not trying to crash the whole thing but if you fancied some local company for half a day it'd be fun to join up with a fellow OcUKer for a short ride and some coffee/cake.
 
Worth a try definitely :)
When are you planning on doing your rides btw? I'm not trying to crash the whole thing but if you fancied some local company for half a day it'd be fun to join up with a fellow OcUKer for a short ride and some coffee/cake.

That sounds a great idea. Realistically I am thinking April for this (avoiding Easter). If none of my ride buddies can organise themselves then I'll come up on my own and meet you. What ever way it would be great to meet up with a fellow Oc'er. Perhaps we could even expand the invite once a date is more certain.
 
That sounds a great idea. Realistically I am thinking April for this (avoiding Easter). If none of my ride buddies can organise themselves then I'll come up on my own and meet you. What ever way it would be great to meet up with a fellow Oc'er. Perhaps we could even expand the invite once a date is more certain.

Sounds good :)

I'm away 1st-5th of April but if it ends up being after then I'm definitely up for a ride.

edit: I guess "avoiding Easter" strongly suggests that it won't be 1st-5th :p
 
Post up when you sort a date, I might be able to get a day pass and head out to meet you.

I did 20 miles this evening, following the same route as Wednesday night's zone 2 ride, but at pace and pushing myself this time. Sticking to zone 2 I averaged 14.2mph. At pace tonight I averaged 16.9mph.
 
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Went for a 2014 Pinnacle Dolomite 3 in the end - http://www.evanscycles.com/products/pinnacle/dolomite-three-2014-road-bike-ec054869

Tried out the L and XL last week and found the L to be the better fit. I was going to get the 2 (with Claris) but I was advised to go Sora if I could for the extra gear.

Haha we could have been in there together this week as I've been in twice already , but on Thursday I ordered the Dolomite 6 (XL). Got the £75 off gear deal and managed to blag another £30 on top too :D

Just got an email this evening saying its getting delivered Monday morning so well happy with the service.

I've also booked an appoinment with a bike fitter/bio-mechanical expert for a review of my foot/ankle/knee/hip problems etc with a view to getting some proper good cleats/pedals/shoes/orthotics/shims whatever is needed really.
 
He may need to replace one of his chain rings though and given the ridiculous cheapness It may be worth doing. Aside from that, completely agree with the alternative choices though.



130W - 150W @ 18mph seems crazy low wattage. Is that Strava's estimates? Have you entered your own and your bike weight correctly?

I've ridden on 23/25/28 a fair bit and I do think that 25mm is the way to go. Rolling resistance as you've said is great and the comfort of 25mm is nice. 28mm I found to be too bouncy and 23mm often a bit too hard. Different kinds of tyres across those experiences but the latest 23 and 25s I've used are pretty close in terms of models (Pro4 Endurance 25mm vs Pro4 Service Course Grip 23mm).

I expect 180-200w to do 30kmh on the flat, depend on your height and wind resistance!
 
Haha we could have been in there together this week as I've been in twice already , but on Thursday I ordered the Dolomite 6 (XL). Got the £75 off gear deal and managed to blag another £30 on top too :D

Just got an email this evening saying its getting delivered Monday morning so well happy with the service.

I've also booked an appoinment with a bike fitter/bio-mechanical expert for a review of my foot/ankle/knee/hip problems etc with a view to getting some proper good cleats/pedals/shoes/orthotics/shims whatever is needed really.

Excellent! I was going to go back in and order in store but time was against me a bit and knowing that they are just running out old stock on the 2014 I did it online as click and collect. Hopefully get it on Thursday when they have late night opening.
 
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