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The argument is that by the time you see the wear it's already too late... But then equally older folk would regard 0.75% as premature so who knows.

Totally agree. What I'm getting at is that a lot of people who say their chains last 3000 miles or more also don't have a chain checker so will consider a chain as being fine until it starts skipping. Where as my bike was riding fine but the chain checker said other wise. I could probably have doubled the mileage on that chain before it became a problem, of course by then the cassette would have been toast but on a cheap drive train I don't think that really matters.

This could also be my justification for not changing my chain as regularly in future as while it is an easy job it's one I'm not particularly fond of (too messy :p )
 
This weather. :(

Got absolutely drenched last night and couldn't get my kit all dry for today
What are you trying to dry? Most of my stuff easily dries in ~9 hours (at work) or overnight at home. I try to hang in doorways at home so air movement maximises their drying ability. At work I tend to separate things as much as possible and hang them on the back of a 'desk partition'. Only things which don't always totally dry are my overshoes or my winter gloves.

For shoes it's best to stop them getting totally sodden in the first place, overshoes are best for this although some moisture obviously gets through most neoprene types. One 'trick' for shoes is to remove the insoles, open them up as wide as possible and pack a load of newspaper into them. You could go further and use things like packet rice or silica gel if you wanted to - both absorbing more moisture than newspaper. Waterproof socks are another option, I bought my other half some Sealskinz (as she rides in normal trainers/converse) and she really rates them. They've never been my size in a good sale for me to grab a pair of my own to try out!
The argument is that by the time you see the wear it's already too late... But then equally older folk would regard 0.75% as premature so who knows.
That's exactly it, admittedly I've used some 'expensive' £25-30 chains along with some cheap £15-20, but I'm still yet to see any significant wear on my cassette. Chainrings are another matter but that is mostly due to them being FSA who are quite well known as using cheaper quality alloys which wear more than say, Shimano. I'm running 5800 so my cassettes are not exactly 'expensive'. Equally I'd rather be buying a chain every 6 months rather than a cassette.
This could also be my justification for not changing my chain as regularly in future as while it is an easy job it's one I'm not particularly fond of (too messy :p )
Should be no more messy than a complete clean of it (where you remove it)! Even quicker time wise as you don't need to clean the thing! :)

Anyone with any pointers on how you remove these?:
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The 'cap' over top of the bearing. It has some teeth on it but I think that's just for gripping the fork. Both sides rotate independently of each other and have no dents for spanners/tools to unscrew. Bits I've seen online hint they just 'pop' off with a little leverage but didn't have much luck...
 
Bike looks good Benny. You tried that hill in Ibstone, i cant remember what its called but its the one that runs down along past the windmill, itss about 25%. If you come up the top of Aston Hill, then keep going till you get to the end of the road, do a right over the M40 then keep following it and you get to it as a decent. Last time i done it , it worked my cassette loose!

Off Holloway or Oxford?

https://www.strava.com/segments/707556

Got some climbs on my radar over that way. Think I'll take my bike to work (Thame) and drive to Chinnor and set off from there. Otherwise I've another 20 miles to make it a round trip.

Sunday's (or soon) appetite...

https://www.strava.com/routes/4961885
 
Gonna wade in with my viewpoint, I don't change my chain anywhere near as often as anybody here. Easily got >3000 km out of the chain on my best bike and no real signs of wear on cassette/chainrings.
 
Anyone with any pointers on how you remove these?
The 'cap' over top of the bearing. It has some teeth on it but I think that's just for gripping the fork. Both sides rotate independently of each other and have no dents for spanners/tools to unscrew. Bits I've seen online hint they just 'pop' off with a little leverage but didn't have much luck...

Yep, the 'teeth' are there so that the whole axle doesnt rotate in the fork if the bearings get stiff.
The caps should just pull off. They can be quite tight though. If you try to lever them off make sure you're pulling straight and not 'bending' them off. Start on one side of the wheel and get something in either edge (tyre lever?) of the cap to force it equally.

Sometimes (depending on your hub) you can put the skewer in squint and catch the inside edge of the cap and knock it out from the other side but I'd use that as a last resort if you can pull them off.
 
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Anyone with any pointers on how you remove these?:
bearing%20caps.jpg

The 'cap' over top of the bearing. It has some teeth on it but I think that's just for gripping the fork. Both sides rotate independently of each other and have no dents for spanners/tools to unscrew. Bits I've seen online hint they just 'pop' off with a little leverage but didn't have much luck...
If you don't have a bench vice, try some mole grips and a piece of old tube for protection and pull harder.
 
I try to hang in doorways at home so air movement maximises their drying ability. Only things which don't always totally dry are my overshoes or my winter gloves.

Some moisture obviously gets through most neoprene types. One 'trick' for shoes is to remove the insoles, open them up as wide as possible and pack a load of newspaper into them.

Yeah, it was more down to my Mom was doing a tonne of washing as well and my dad is annoyed enough with bikes, parts and cycling gear everywhere so hanging them about is off the list, so I just left them in the kitchen.

My overshoes, leg warmers, arm warmers, gloves and shorts (albeit nanoflex) weren't dry by Morning, but they were truly soaked through, my bag was still wet as well. :(

Doesn't look to be too wet today so they'll just be washed and dried tonight. :)
 
Plain old sandpaper just isn't exciting enough for me these days. It needs embrocation cream on it to make things fun.
 
Off Holloway or Oxford?

https://www.strava.com/segments/707556

Got some climbs on my radar over that way. Think I'll take my bike to work (Thame) and drive to Chinnor and set off from there. Otherwise I've another 20 miles to make it a round trip.

Sunday's (or soon) appetite...

https://www.strava.com/routes/4961885


This one, https://www.strava.com/segments/770282 i find it really hard. Great view from the top tho!

Ah yea cool route, if you fancy extra punishment, you can add Britwell Hill on to the top of Howe Hill on that route. Thats another around 20% i used to ride back to Bracknell from Thame, its about 9 miles to the top of Aston Hill so it was a great warm up, some serious hills in the Chilterns. I think im going to do similar and drive to Henley because its about 25 to the top from my house.
 
Should be no more messy than a complete clean of it (where you remove it)! Even quicker time wise as you don't need to clean the thing! :)

For me once a chain is on it is staying on until I'm ready to file it in the bin :p Cleaning is done using a chain cleaning thingy with a drop of degreaser in it when it is really dirty or with a squirt of GT85 and an old pair of pants when it is only slightly grimy.
 
Removing a chain to clean it is complete overkill. I've never seen the point. Soaking it in degreaser is arguably bad for it too, according to ol' Shelly B.
 
This one, https://www.strava.com/segments/770282 i find it really hard. Great view from the top tho!

Ah yea cool route, if you fancy extra punishment, you can add Britwell Hill on to the top of Howe Hill on that route. Thats another around 20% i used to ride back to Bracknell from Thame, its about 9 miles to the top of Aston Hill so it was a great warm up, some serious hills in the Chilterns. I think im going to do similar and drive to Henley because its about 25 to the top from my house.

Ahh, cheers.

On Streetview check out the road it merges with off Holloway Lane :eek:

Are you still in the area? Would be up for some company on some climbs if you fancy? :) and by that I mean falling half way and embarrassing myself :p

(Think you're in the GRz group?)
 
Ahh, cheers.

On Streetview check out the road it merges with off Holloway Lane :eek:

Are you still in the area? Would be up for some company on some climbs if you fancy? :) and by that I mean falling half way and embarrassing myself :p

(Think you're in the GRz group?)

Yea im in the group mate:) Ive done that Holloway one once before i think, really tight and pot hole galore if i remember, seemed to go on forever! I think we're moving out on Friday this week so wont be here weekdays anymore, id definitely be up for a ride one weekend tho.
 
Removing a chain to clean it is complete overkill. I've never seen the point. Soaking it in degreaser is arguably bad for it too, according to ol' Shelly B.

I used to take mine off and soak it in white spirit. These days I use a chain cleaner and degreaser. It seems to be working well enough.
 
pull harder.
The caps should just pull off. They can be quite tight though. If you try to lever them off make sure you're pulling straight and not 'bending' them off. Start on one side of the wheel and get something in either edge (tyre lever?) of the cap to force it equally.

Sometimes (depending on your hub) you can put the skewer in squint and catch the inside edge of the cap and knock it out from the other side but I'd use that as a last resort if you can pull them off.
Tried a slight bend to see if they popped off but not enough to damage it. Will clamp and pull. Failing that I'll be tapping them out, carefully!

Wheels have never had hubs serviced, have a couple of broken spokes and are several years old (both needing new bearings). Still they're Roval, which are using re-branded DT Swiss 240's so should be perfectly serviceable. Rims have plenty of wear left on them, an AL35 (alloy) and SL45 (carbon). Less than 4000 miles (pinch of salt, I'm betting less than 6000) and never crashed. Looking at the spokes they've had a knock or two (missing some paint) but nothing serious, the couple of broken are at the nipple end. The serviced hubs alone were worth the £150 I haggled the guy down to - was originally intending on binning the rims but now I think I'm going to run them as a wheelset (originally bought to service the hubs and use with archetypes to replace my khamsin's).
And that's all for masochistic masturbation tips this week. Join us next Wednesday when we'll be looking at the many applications of sandpaper.
I'll supply the pictures, if required?

On a related note, the DHB chamois cream is rubbish compared to the assos. Assos is like gods intended, DHB is more like something you would apply under doctors orders. Or more accurately very similar to what I recall being 'supplied' in certain 'establishments' in Prague frequented by stag parties. But
What happens in Prague, stays in Prague
Just buy the Assos.
Removing a chain to clean it is complete overkill. I've never seen the point. Soaking it in degreaser is arguably bad for it too, according to ol' Shelly B.
I only tend to do it once in a chains 'lifecycle' and actually did it last weekend, arguably more towards the end of the current's lifecycle...
 
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Yea im in the group mate:) Ive done that Holloway one once before i think, really tight and pot hole galore if i remember, seemed to go on forever! I think we're moving out on Friday this week so wont be here weekdays anymore, id definitely be up for a ride one weekend tho.

Roger that, will hit you up soon. I've barely done any exploring over that way yet :)
 
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