You mean the post where you were saying that flat bar road bikes are hybrids but you call them flat bar road bikes? Yes, I did and I was just pointing out the difference between the two as the terms have come to mean very different things.
Road Cycling
- Thread starter FrenchTart
- Start date
Soldato
- Joined
- 6 Sep 2016
- Posts
- 10,879
Oh it's tototally OK to cut and paste someone's post.
You're just being stupid to start arguement.
I said (despite the "people" above") that something like a Giant FCR is not a hybrid, even though they are called that, they are flat bar road bikes.
Walk into Halfords and they have the Boardman Hybrid Comp as a "hybrid" but it has fairly skinny tyres.
You're just being stupid to start arguement.
I said (despite the "people" above") that something like a Giant FCR is not a hybrid, even though they are called that, they are flat bar road bikes.
Walk into Halfords and they have the Boardman Hybrid Comp as a "hybrid" but it has fairly skinny tyres.
It also has an Acera groupset on it. Did you even read my post?
Soldato
- Joined
- 6 Sep 2016
- Posts
- 10,879
It also has an Acera groupset on it. Did you even read my post?
Probably because it's just a cheaper groupset? if a flat bar does have MTB chainset, tiny granny ring, and even the big ring is pretty smalll, or the cassette largest sprocket is big, wide tyres, then not really a full flat bar road bike. I'd say anything over 35 mm tyres not a flat bar road bike.
I'd call this a flat bar road bike, it's moreso than a say a Voodoo Marasa which is a hybrid
https://www.cyclerepublic.com/boardman-comp-mens-hybrid-bike.html?gclid=CJKnlpyNqdICFYEL0wodJKIEaQ
I'll just leave this here...
https://www.evanscycles.com/coffees...s-mountain-bike-groupsets-and-their-hierarchy
https://www.evanscycles.com/coffees...s-mountain-bike-groupsets-and-their-hierarchy
Soldato
Caporegime
You can't just say they should ride any old thing because they're paid for it. If it's not safe, then they shouldn't have to ride it, whatever it is.
And I'd say that potentially a disc has more capacity to cause injury than a broken bone or road rash or whatever. If some bizarre set of circumstances leads you to take a disc to the femoral artery then you are pretty much stone cold dead, however ridiculously unlikely that is. Also, I imagine riders have squared themselves with the risks of crashes, broken bones, etc and can deal with that mentally, while discs are a new thing and hence are that bit more scary.
Soldato
Man this thread is going downhill so rapidly even discs wouldn't stop it...
Back on topic, I have an Exposure Strada and can't fault it at all so far. Expensive but worth it for the peace of mind, my old CREE jobby died without warning a few too many times for my liking.
Back on topic, I have an Exposure Strada and can't fault it at all so far. Expensive but worth it for the peace of mind, my old CREE jobby died without warning a few too many times for my liking.
Soldato
Nothing worse then being ill, due to work, and not being able to ride 
Soldato
Came across this link at bikeradar earlier regarding tyre pressures for anything up to fatbike size...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Clk_LLBYFzA
Chap has created a spreadsheet where you plug in your figures and it suggest pressures. Direct link to dropbox xls file (which I discovered works fine in Google Sheets)...
https://www.dropbox.com/s/v149cjesl7ht35g/FFT_tyre_pressure_calculator.xls
Suggested I should be running my 38c Marathon Cross at ~38/60PSI, but given how that front is less than official minimum on tyre, use 50PSI.
Came back from my extended route home and decided to boost pressures from ~55/61PSI I've been running the last few days to ~63/71PSI, as things felt a bit draggy. However, in fairness, my legs were a bit tired straight after work and it was a bit windy (sadly headwinds and crosswinds).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Clk_LLBYFzA
Chap has created a spreadsheet where you plug in your figures and it suggest pressures. Direct link to dropbox xls file (which I discovered works fine in Google Sheets)...
https://www.dropbox.com/s/v149cjesl7ht35g/FFT_tyre_pressure_calculator.xls
Suggested I should be running my 38c Marathon Cross at ~38/60PSI, but given how that front is less than official minimum on tyre, use 50PSI.
Came back from my extended route home and decided to boost pressures from ~55/61PSI I've been running the last few days to ~63/71PSI, as things felt a bit draggy. However, in fairness, my legs were a bit tired straight after work and it was a bit windy (sadly headwinds and crosswinds).
Recommended pressures are rubbish. My cx tyres minimum 45psi...I run them at 20 and would go lower with latex tubes.
Looks similar to the spreadsheet I've been using for some time now (also sourced from a google docs link) that is based on the 15% drop idea. That was what I used when I suggested the pressures I stated a couple of pages back for you. Now as you've found it is possible that the optimum pressure for your weight might be below the manufacturers stated pressure, especially on the front. Personally I just run at the lowest the manufacturer recommends in that case but as Solid says you can opt to go lower and many people do. Potentially you are opening up the possibility of getting a pinch puncture, in reality you still have a big volume of air you need to completely disperse before the rim nips the tube.
They shouldn't feel draggy with a 15% drop, you should notice that the ride is a little more compliant though. I'm certainly able to very closely match my road bike when riding the gravel bike on 35C Cross tyres at 45/60 PSI.
Have a play with it though. I must say that I'm pleased I discovered the 15% drop guideline as previously I'd been given the (mis)advice that I should run at max pressure for minimum rolling resistance. My hybrid on 40C tyres at 80 PSI at the time was horrendous
Soldato
Was looking at the OcUK Strava club and noticed that I was second on the climbing table last week haha. I climb like a fat one legged mountain goat with a plastic hip, there's life in the old goat yet 
or it was a quiet week 
or it was a quiet week Indoor training miles and climbs don't countWas looking at the OcUK Strava club and noticed that I was second on the climbing table last week haha. I climb like a fat one legged mountain goat with a plastic hip, there's life in the old goat yet
Caporegime
I've just seen been out and done 30 miles and 2250 feet at a whopping 14.8mph. The wind is ridiculous.
Soldato
Indoor training miles and climbs don't count
True!
From reading this forum, most people don't even ride outside!!
Soldato
Bit of an epic today. Proper tired now
https://www.strava.com/activities/880694512
https://www.strava.com/activities/880694512
it always used to be that turbo work was counted in time ("I did 45 minutes on the turbo last night") - I think strava and the like started people counting turbo use in distance
Not sure I get the issue with turbo miles when people are training to power - often a harder workout than on the road. People like to be elitist though I guess.
That said, I don't really like Zwift counting climbing for indoor riding.
That said, I don't really like Zwift counting climbing for indoor riding.