Road Cycling

BennyC · 13 Apr 2017 at 12:41

Roady said:
How did it go?

merlin said:
Alas Benny's crystal ball broke so unfortunately he's not longer able to see into the future!

Roady said:
Doh! Assumed it was last night as didn't get on here much yesterday afternoon!

Beaten. Both of us

randomshenans said:
I might buy an element... or bolt? Which?

Elemnt is a little bigger and supports an extra two data fields to be displayed on the screen at once but to be honest 7 is more than enough.

FrenchTart said:
Bolt /snip.

I'm pretty certain with the male Garmin mount plugs you could quite easily attach a Wahoo female plug to the reverse and still make do of your current mount. My Elemnt fits in to a Garmin mount, albeit at 90 degrees so you'd need to offset this when sticking them together :cool:

Nursie said:
Bolt hands down. Elemnt is a huge ugly thing. Annoys me that the bolt came out a few months after I bought an Elemnt.

I do like having 8/10 screens visible on a summary page but 80% of the time on my other screens I only show 4 - 6 fields on the Route, Elevation pages. Power, HR, Speed and Grade. On a Lap screen though it's handy to be able to see more metrics like last & current speeds, Avg & NP power, HR etc.

If they're priced similarly I'm not sure which I'd choose. Granted the Elemnt is big (mocked recently for bringing an 'iPad' with me on a group ride - just said it was for entertainment whilst I wait for them to finish the climbs

). Either way as long as you don't buy a Garmin you'll be fine

FrenchTart · 13 Apr 2017 at 12:54

If they were a similar price it'd be a tougher question yeah but as the Bolt is a fair bit cheaper I think it's a pretty simple one

Jonny ///M · 13 Apr 2017 at 12:58

Left my work at about 12 last night but I got there in the end. Still don't think I'll use it tonight until I've had a pedal on it at an average speed rather than flat out.

Near enough on the max on the seat height but the stem slammed is only ever so slightly lower than the cannondale and the saddle to bar distance is the same. I've cut the steerer so no going up any higher than 10mm. Stuck the Ultegra chainset on and a set of R550 pedals. Was going to swap tyres but I'll see how the Rubinos feel being 25s.

Not quite SDK style photos, sorry.

xdcx · 13 Apr 2017 at 13:15

Saddle to stem ratio is into hero realms. Top work. Please accept my approval.
It's not an Aldi Canyon and it doesn't have disc brakes. Straight in at top 5 of the OcUK sexy cyclists.

Lethal` · 13 Apr 2017 at 13:29

platypus said:
Pretty shocking to be honest. I would make a complaint of it, pull the "I want this forwarded to your manager" trick.

I asked if they really are unable to provide me with a new set of cutters. Got this response:

Wiggle said:
The stock control team have advised me that the rest of the stock of this item are all showing this kind of marking, but the control management have said this is not an issue.

They say you can still return the cutters for a full refund if you are still not happy with them.

I can only apologise for this matter and that I am not able to provide any other solutions for this.

Meanwhile the price has gone up on Wiggle and everywhere else to £28 from £20.28 that I paid.

Vonhelmet · 13 Apr 2017 at 13:31

That is one flat top tube.

Jonny ///M · 13 Apr 2017 at 13:35

Lethal` said:
I asked if they really are unable to provide me with a new set of cutters. Got this response:

Meanwhile the price has gone up on Wiggle and everywhere else to £28 from £20.28 that I paid.

Any photos? Sometimes the surfaces that are machined flat as hell near the cutting surface do show sort of scoring.

xdcx said:
Saddle to stem ratio is into hero realms. Top work. Please accept my approval.
It's not an Aldi Canyon and it doesn't have disc brakes. Straight in at top 5 of the OcUK sexy cyclists.

I'll still be representing 'traditional' road bikes as long as I can. I enjoy the fact it even has external gear cables.

Lethal` · 13 Apr 2017 at 13:53

Jonny ///M said:
Any photos? Sometimes the surfaces that are machined flat as hell near the cutting surface do show sort of scoring.

The bolt head on the other side showed usage too. They arrive in a plastic casing so I fail to see how this is likely to have happened from anything besides usage.

Shadowness · 13 Apr 2017 at 13:55

Does that really matter though? I know in principle yes......but it's a tool. It's not as if it's a £3k new frame with a scratch. Personally I dont think that would bother me.

platypus · 13 Apr 2017 at 14:09

Shadowness said:
Does that really matter though? I know in principle yes......but it's a tool. It's not as if it's a £3k new frame with a scratch. Personally I dont think that would bother me.

I'm not sure about this. I don't *think* it would bother me, but then I wouldn't expect to be paying full price for something thats clearly been used.

platypus · 13 Apr 2017 at 14:10

Jonny ///M said:
Not quite SDK style photos, sorry.

I really like it. Love the understated, minimalist frame.

What model is it? I can't find it on their website and searching that code reveals nothing.

Lethal` · 13 Apr 2017 at 14:16

platypus said:
I'm not sure about this. I don't *think* it would bother me, but then I wouldn't expect to be paying full price for something thats clearly been used.

This is pretty much where I sit with this. I'd expect these to be in their eBay store which often seems to be used for not-brand-new items.

Though on the first pair I did notice the jaws aren't quite in line with each other (obvious at the crimping area) so I wondered if that's a potential issue in operation. This appears to be the case with the second set too though so I guess that's fine.

Jonny ///M · 13 Apr 2017 at 14:25

platypus said:
I really like it. Love the understated, minimalist frame.

What model is it? I can't find it on their website and searching that code reveals nothing.

Its the Orca M30. The £1500 starting model with the cheaper OME frame, the pro uses the OMP frame with slightly better carbon - internal cables - and there is the new Orca aero with the OMR frame but they start way over £3k.

platypus · 13 Apr 2017 at 14:32

Jonny ///M said:
Its the Orca M30. The £1500 starting model with the cheaper OME frame, the pro uses the OMP frame with slightly better carbon and there is the new Orca aero with the OMR frame but they start way over £3k.

Thanks. Lovely frames.

BennyC · 13 Apr 2017 at 14:41

FrenchTart said:
If they were a similar price it'd be a tougher question yeah but as the Bolt is a fair bit cheaper I think it's a pretty simple one

Got my Elemnt for the same price as the Bolt is now last year

JonnyM, saddle to stem drop is reeedonkulous.

Jonny ///M · 13 Apr 2017 at 14:49

Its not that bad!

My boss has his Felt F1 about 2cm lower on a so.ilar saddle height and a 12cm stem. We're similar heights. The Felts are known to have aggressive front ends. The new FR range have went higher to suit more people.

lordrobs · 13 Apr 2017 at 15:13

Well, that was annoying. Five miles from home and I get the PTSCHHHHH of doom. Oh well, I was going to get a puncture on the Pro4E's eventually and 1000 miles is a decent run without one. Have a look and the tyre is split, badly! I didn't really have anything to make a boot with so I just shoved a new tube in and headed straight home. Big mistake as once inflated it looked like my tyre had a hernia and it only lasted a while, had to walk the last 2 and a bit miles home. In hindsight I should have used the plastic bag from my inner tube to try and bodge it. Oh well, now to shop for a new tyre!

FrenchTart · 13 Apr 2017 at 15:24

BennyC said:
Got my Elemnt for the same price as the Bolt is now last year

JonnyM, saddle to stem drop is reeedonkulous.

Paid £175 for mine - Annoying that the better Wiggle platinum discount came in just after I bought it. Also, I forgot to Quidco, lolz :/

BennyC · 13 Apr 2017 at 16:10

FrenchTart said:
Paid £175 for mine - Annoying that the better Wiggle platinum discount came in just after I bought it. Also, I forgot to Quidco, lolz :/

Worth asking for the difference back, usually find they will oblige

FrenchTart · 13 Apr 2017 at 16:11

BennyC said:
Worth asking for the difference back, usually find they will oblige

Already tried my luck, sadly they said no.