Robert Jordan’s fantasy epic The Wheel of Time coming to TV

HOLY #*$%!

Despite the absolute trash start of season 2, the last couple of episodes surpassed even season one for sheer brilliance. I have never been so happy to see what happened. I even had a lump in my throat at the end.

I am going to have to read the damn books now as I can’t wait a year to see what happens next.
 
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I’m two episodes into Season 2 does it get better as this is hard work?

75% of the season seems to be characters competing as to who can be the most stroppy and obtuse for no apparent reason, about the mid-point a few story threads emerge which keep it from being dire. Then the final 2 episodes would have been awesome if they'd built that up over the season instead of rushing it all into play for the finale.

There are actually some brilliant threads of writing that start to emerge in the 2nd half.

Feels to me like it suffers from having too many producers, writers and directors - no one really gets their teeth into it while trying to balance doing their own thing with maintaining consistency with what others have done or will do with it.
 
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HOLY #*$%!

Despite the absolute trash start of season 2, the last couple of episodes surpassed even season one for sheer brilliance. I have never been so happy to see what happened. I even had a lump in my throat at the end.

I am going to have to read the damn books now as I can’t wait a year to see what happens next.

Well since so much of the tv deviates from what happens in the books, I am not sure reading the books will help you. lol

I must admit, the books handles the captivity and rescue of Egwene so much better than the TV does. The TV was good, but the books much better at showing the utter despair from being captured by the Seanchan
 
75% of the season seems to be characters competing as to who can be the most stroppy and obtuse for no apparent reason, about the mid-point a few story threads emerge which keep it from being dire. Then the final 2 episodes would have been awesome if they'd built that up over the season instead of rushing it all into play for the finale.

There are actually some brilliant threads of writing that start to emerge in the 2nd half.

Feels to me like it suffers from having too many producers, writers and directors - no one really gets their teeth into it while trying to balance doing their own thing with maintaining consistency with what others have done or will do with it.
The SFX for the finale was probably half the budget tbh.
 
One thing I was wondering - do the books explain why the Forsaken (Ishmael + Lanfear) can channel so quickly? The way Lanfear opened the waygate in a quick flick of her wrist and Moiraine has to waft her hands about for five minutes. Or is that just a TV addition?
 
Basically they've had a few lifetimes to hone their skills. They also know lots of old weaves (magic) that has been forgotten over time.
They were naturally strong in the one power (force :D) just like some of the main characters are.
All the characters seem to be especially good at something. Power in Dreams, Healing, Tactics, Swords, Archery, Cunning etc.
IMO. The TV show, often hints at this without explaining it, skips it, or mentions it in passing.

Its really background of the story, the TV show is really only tapping into it properly now.
 
One thing I was wondering - do the books explain why the Forsaken (Ishmael + Lanfear) can channel so quickly? The way Lanfear opened the waygate in a quick flick of her wrist and Moiraine has to waft her hands about for five minutes. Or is that just a TV addition?

They have had thousands of years to practice plus they were some of the most powerful channelers of their time and back then almost everybody who could channel was more powerful then the most powerful Aes Sedai in the current age. Over the thousands of years, the amount of new people who could channel has got less and less and they have been less powerful until the coming of the youngsters in this story.

Since the breaking of the world, lots of weaves have been long forgotten such as teleport which the forsaken can do in a blink. The Aes Sedai back then even created the waygates. Morraine struggles to even open one, never mind actually making one which must be inconceivable to her. There are many many more powerful weaves the Forsaken can do which you will get to see later in the show I don't doubt so I won't mention them here.

They way I see, it is a bit like this. Imagine almost everybody today was wiped out and almost all knowledge wiped except for a few top scientists who are then frozen for 3000 years. The world returns to the stone age and makes some progress but then the scientists wake up and they have all the knowledge of the years leading up to when they were frozen. Just how much more powerful would they seem compared to normal people who might have got tech back up to the middle ages again?

I think Salene might have mentioned how weak Aes Sedai are in the TV show once. In the books they make a much bigger thing of it. I also think its been mentioned in the show that the three girls are some of the most powerful chanelers the tower have seen in millennium.
 
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75% of the season seems to be characters competing as to who can be the most stroppy and obtuse for no apparent reason, about the mid-point a few story threads emerge which keep it from being dire. Then the final 2 episodes would have been awesome if they'd built that up over the season instead of rushing it all into play for the finale.

There are actually some brilliant threads of writing that start to emerge in the 2nd half.

Feels to me like it suffers from having too many producers, writers and directors - no one really gets their teeth into it while trying to balance doing their own thing with maintaining consistency with what others have done or will do with it.
It doesn’t help when three of the main characters can’t acrually act. Egwene. Matt and especially Perrin are awful.

It’s worth sticking with for Lanfear.

I think I’m upto Ep 7 and Ep 6 was an improvement.
 
To be fair the show is ok and its hard not to keep comparing them to the books. One thing i agree as some have already mentioned is

The focus should be on Rand and the show's portrayal is mainly on the other characters. While i dont have a problem with that it is doing a little dis-service to the main character and the story telling of the original material.
 
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To be fair the show is ok and its hard not to keep comparing them to the books. One thing i agree as some have already mentioned is

The focus should be on Rand and the show's portrayal is mainly on the other characters. While i dont have a problem with that it is doing a little dis-service to the main character and the story telling of the original material.
The first two books are very Rand centric. And I miss that in this TV series.

Heck, to be honest. The TV series is doing a disservice to almost all the characters apart from their star, Morraine played by Rosamund Pike...Who gets made up stuff as filler.

To me the books are about, what if a normal man is told his fate is to save the world and all the people he can. And what he would do to that end.

The TV show seems to forget that and follows another mantra...
 
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Wow there a lot more lore in the book of backgrounds of history, people and places etc. Didnt appreciate it that from the show.
 
Wow there a lot more lore in the book of backgrounds of history, people and places etc. Didnt appreciate it that from the show.

He really built a epic world. I know some people complain the pacing is way too slow in some books but hell you dont half get invested in the world and the characters and care about what happens to them in the books.
 
I just didnt realise there was so much more depth from the story and its characters. As you say its a epic world indeed.
 
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