Robot Wars returning to BBC2!

b0rn2sk8 said:
Like I said before this is 100% down to the format, if it was a straight elimination battle then I would have expected far more destroyed robots.

When doing a league format your heavily reliant on robots not being destroyed in every fight otherwise it doesn't work. There was clearly some instructions at the start of the thing to this effect.

There is also the fact that when a robot is clearly disabled and you have already won, you have already won. If you go ahead and completely destroy it after your just a ****.

The thing about the robot and the wider 'maker' community, it is very small, everyone knows each other and helps each other. Once you get the reputation for being a ****, no one will help you ever again. In group battles people will just gang up on you etc.
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SO how did we get so many more better fights in a show that was about 10 years ago and more?
 
I honestly wonder whether other people were watching a different series to me. I saw great fights and some really good robots.
 
Mr Jack said:
I honestly wonder whether other people were watching a different series to me. I saw great fights and some really good robots.
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Well you must have somehow missed robots breaking down seconds into the fight, weapons lasting mere seconds before they stopped functioning, and robots stopping dead in their tracks because the safety cut out, as well as other robots only working intermittently during fights. These weren't rare incidents, they happened in a lot of the fights and became a running theme for some of the robots.
 
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The final was very good. If all the heats were like that, then it would be enjoyable to watch every episode.
 
Pigeon_Killer said:
Mortis?
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This, I seem to remember it was incredibly over engineered for its time but failed very quickly.

cu3ed said:
SO how did we get so many more better fights in a show that was about 10 years ago and more?
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In my opinion this is the reasons:

Back then heavy spinners only came in right at the end and people didn't know how to build a robot to work against them while still begin good. Most of the current good robots were able to take multiple hits from heavy spinners, back then if Hipno Disk hit you, there was robot guts everywhere.

Better armour in modern robots.

Less time to build and test this time (mentioned earlier in the thread they had 3 months)

Safety system that clearly was not reliable enough.

Rose tinted glasses?
 
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The main problem with the spinners this series were that half of them stopped spinning after about 2 hits.

Watch Tombstone in Battlebots if you think "heavy spinners" can't overcome modern robot armour...or even Carbide.

It would be interesting to see what Hypnodisc could do these days.
 
Enjoyed the final show, mostly for Carbide destroying stuff. :)

Shame Carbide's weapon failed, think it would have smashed Apollo easily. Great robot.
 
I do love carbide, it absolutely destroys the other robots and quickly too...and the arena.

I was kinda miffed about the others complaining about carbide damaging them. It is a competition, get over it tbh. Shame carbide didn't destroy them beyond repair tbh.
 
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cu3ed said:
SO how did we get so many more better fights in a show that was about 10 years ago and more?
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Because they had years to perfect the robots. This series other than the old robots that competed 12 years ago and some flippers that got made for the live events most bots had 3 months to design build and teSt new bots.

a lot of decent robots didn't make.the new series as they were deemed not good enough quirkey etc for the new show.
 
There is also a lot of cherry picking going on with selecting the best robots from multiple series.

I remember some absolutely awful robots.

I also, likely incorrectly, remember the house robots being a lot better. They obviously aren't worse now, but just goes to show the effect of nostalgia.
 
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I honestly think banning spinners or placing a limit on them would improve it so much. The battle between TR2 and Apollo was incredible, tense driving by both teams.

Next battle? One hit, robot disabled. Boring as ****. The problem with spinners is they either obliterate the other robot or destroy themselves. I can't remember one good battle involving a spinner this series. A good 50% of them just broke themselves. Even Pulsar which seemed to be disabled for about 50% of it's time in the arena got into the final...and then spent the whole time disabled again.
 
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Shamikebab said:
I honestly think banning spinners or placing a limit on them would improve it so much. The battle between TR2 and Apollo was incredible, tense driving by both teams.

Next battle? One hit, robot disabled. Boring as ****. The problem with spinners is they either obliterate the other robot or destroy themselves. I can't remember one good battle involving a spinner this series. A good 50% of them just broke themselves. Even Pulsar which seemed to be disabled for about 50% of it's time in the arena got into the final...and then spent the whole time disabled again.
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Pulsar wasn't really a spinner though in the vain of carbide, was more of a drum style type of weapon, yes it spun but took a lot more positioning for it to be effective.
 
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