Rooney has just been stretchered off. OH NOOO

neoboy · 30 Apr 2006 at 19:34

Vandle said:
You know less than you think!

Ahem, confused them with someone else. Damn all those South American little counties

Vandle · 30 Apr 2006 at 19:35

JohnnyG said:
Ok then I'll put it this way. What's with players & feet nowadays.
Broken ankles & legs have always been common but broken bones in your feet (pedantic enough?) have not & are definitely more frequent now.

Harder pitches and softer boots Id reckon fella.

Vandle · 30 Apr 2006 at 19:35

neoboy said:
Ahem, confused them with someone else. Damn all those South American little counties

Try again

neoboy · 30 Apr 2006 at 19:38

Stop getting technical on me, they are above Venezuela so they are sorta South American.

5ingh · 30 Apr 2006 at 19:39

Vandle said:
Try again

LOL

JohnnyG · 30 Apr 2006 at 19:39

It's a World Cup, countries only

Vandle · 30 Apr 2006 at 19:41

neoboy said:
Stop getting technical on me, they are above Venezuela so they are sorta South American.

Sorry mate , dont mean to be pedantic.

atpbx · 30 Apr 2006 at 19:42

Well i've got SSN on and it says he is going regardless even if there is the slightest chance of him playing.

Which is great.
We all know its going to 4-4-2 with Owen and the Plank up front untill Rooney is fit.
Which isnt.

Nedved11 · 30 Apr 2006 at 19:52

Goes to show really how weak the England side is and how heavily it relies on one player.

JohnnyG · 30 Apr 2006 at 19:58

Nedved11 said:
Goes to show really how weak the England side is and how heavily it relies on one player.

Surely you can only say that after the WC without him?

Nedved11 · 30 Apr 2006 at 20:06

JohnnyG said:
Surely you can only say that after the WC without him?

From Euro04 as well as the general consensus and feelings of the whole country...

JohnnyG · 30 Apr 2006 at 20:13

Consensus & feelings aren't facts though

We might do really well without him, someone else might shine, remember Totò?

Gilly · 30 Apr 2006 at 20:14

Every country in the world would suffer at the WC from having a player of Rooney's ability out of the side.

JohnnyG · 30 Apr 2006 at 20:18

Definitely, doesn't mean that without him we are a weak side though

neoboy · 30 Apr 2006 at 20:21

JohnnyG said:
Definitely, doesn't mean that without him we are a weak side though

Even with him I don't remember having such a good form. Certainly not a bad form but nowhere near what was expected from them.

Nedved11 · 30 Apr 2006 at 20:44

I don’t think Sven has the competency to allow for this kind of situation, any manager will have a backup plan or technique. He is now betting on Rooney's fitness. This clearly means he has one idea and one way of playing which we have all seen. Sven will have to rejig the side and play a very different type of football... With Crouch, we all know what that is.

Obviously it is still early days and i do hope Rooney will get fit in time to get some of the WC at least, it will be a loss to the whole tournament if he is out.

Matrix · 30 Apr 2006 at 21:04

Nedved11 said:
Goes to show really how weak the England side is and how heavily it relies on one player.

To be honest mate Germans would be weak with out ballack argies without requiem italy with out Toni golas, and in there day same with ZZ for france, or figo portugal.
in one way or another i think most countries relie on one major player in some repsects.

Sven will take him so hopefully when we get out of the group stage and start the kockouts he will have had 8 weeks by then to get fit hopefully! :rolleyes:

Nedved11 · 1 May 2006 at 00:22

Matrix said:
To be honest mate Germans would be weak with out ballack argies without requiem italy with out Toni golas, and in there day same with ZZ for france, or figo portugal.
in one way or another i think most countries relie on one major player in some repsects.

All the players you have mentioned bar Zizou would not make as much a dramatic effect to their respective countries as Rooney would have. The point being that the way England play, Rooney is a fundamental pillar to that structure more than any other team. I don’t think any other team relies that much heavily on one single player.

Vegetarian · 1 May 2006 at 00:42

I would go for a formation like this for group stages...

.......................Owen..............................

.............Lampard....................................

J Cole.....................Gerard...........Beckham

......................Carrick.............................

A Cole..........................................Nevelle

................Terry.........Ferdenand..............

Robinson in goal

I dont think Rooney will be back in time - they all said owen would be back in 6-8 weeks

We all wanna believe Rooney will be there!

It could also be a blessing for England too - it will really make them work hard!

Remember France won the world cup in 98 with no decent strikers!

France had Zidane - we have Lampard and Gerard...

5ingh · 1 May 2006 at 09:06

hes gonna be ok man, rooneys fractured a different bone to owen. a preston player rang up 5live yesterday. he had the same injury and was back playing in 6 weeks 2 days. it took 3-4 weeks (from injury) for him to start kicking a ball again.