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RTX 3050 - starting at $249 (msrp)

Indigo said:
The owners thread is a very small snapshot of the UK market and isn't representative either of the market anyway. It's merely a poll completed by people who visit the forum and care to post they have a card. They'll be many people who simply haven't posted either for that matter.

Sorry but I'm far more inclined to believe Gibbo about which card sells better and HAS more sales rather than a forum poll. Not even a comparison when comparing the two.

And with all due respect sales everywhere matter and to base how you care on a forum poll alone is laughable.

These threads are comical.
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I only looked in the owners threads because someone said to look there, so I did. That's all the data I have to go on. I still firmly believe there were a lot more FE models sold than people seem to think. I also was taught to never trust a salesman, so I don't and never will, so I equally don't believe Gibbo either and that will never change.
 
https://imgur.com/a/PQdrKEn
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In case it helps in searching for a 3050 come tomorrow, I've tried to find part numbers from the various manufactures. But Asus and EVGA have blocks on their product pages. Colorful, MSI, and Palit just list model name. And I don't recognise the brand with a white cooler shroud on right of above picture.

Asus
ROG Strix GeForce RTX™ 3050 8GB
ROG Strix GeForce RTX™ 3050 OC Edition 8GB
DUAL-RTX3050-8G
DUAL-RTX3050-O8G
PH-RTX3050-8G

Colorful
iGame GeForce RTX 3050 Ultra W OC 8G-V
iGame GeForce RTX 3050 Ultra W DUO OC 8G-V
GeForce RTX 3050 NB 8G EX-V
GeForce RTX 3050 NB DUO 8G-V

EVGA
GeForce RTX™3050 XC
GeForce RTX™3050 XC Black

Gainward
GeForce RTX™ 3050 Ghost OC (barcode 471056224-3246, Part No. NE63050T19P1-190AB)
GeForce RTX™ 3050 Ghost (barcode 471056224-3222, Part No. NE63050019P1-190AB)
GeForce RTX™ 3050 Pegasus OC (barcode 471056224-3284, Part No. NE63050S19P1-190AE)
GeForce RTX™ 3050 Pegasus (barcode 471056224-3260, Part No. NE63050019P1-190AE)

Gigabyte
GeForce RTX™ 3050 GAMING OC 8G (GV-N3050GAMING OC-8GD)
GeForce RTX™ 3050 EAGLE OC 8G (GV-N3050EAGLE OC-8GD)
eForce RTX™ 3050 EAGLE 8G (GV-N3050EAGLE-8GD)

Inno3D
GEFORCE RTX 3050 TWIN X2 (Part No.: N30502-08D6-1190VA42)
GEFORCE RTX 3050 TWIN X2 OC (Part No.: N30502-08D6X-11902130)


KFA2/Galax
GeForce RTX™ 3050 EX (1-Click OC) (Product Code 35NSL8MD6YEK, UPC Code 4895147148557)
GeForce RTX™ 3050 (1-Click OC) (Product Code 35NSL8MD6ZOK, UPC Code 4895147148526)

MSI
GeForce RTX™ 3050 GAMING X 8G
GeForce RTX™ 3050 GAMING 8G
GeForce RTX™ 3050 AERO ITX 8G OC
GeForce RTX™ 3050 VENTUS 2X 8G OC

Palit
GeForce RTX™ 3050 Dual OC
GeForce RTX™ 3050 Dual
GeForce RTX™ 3050 StormX OC
GeForce RTX™ 3050 StormX

PNY
GeForce RTX 3050 8GB XLR8 Gaming REVEL EPIC-X RGB Dual Fan Edition (SKU: VCG30508DFXPPB)
GeForce RTX 3050 8GB XLR8 Gaming REVEL EPIC-X RGB Single Fan Edition (SKU: VCG30508SFXPPB)
PNY GeForce RTX 3050 8GB UPRISING Dual Fan (SKU: VCG30508DFMPB)
 
To be honest, the posts in the owners thread are just a flex, particularly 3080 FE owners as the flex so much bigger knowing they didn’t pay £lol for it, it’s not surprising that lots of FE owners post about getting one.

Yes I am an FE owner and yes I posted in that thread primarily for the internet flex and secondly to show not all of them are going on eBay. Most people don’t even know there is an FE model and how to get it. That’s demonstrated as much as the numbers that stray into the FE thread every week asking just that.

However, I do agree with the comments that AIBs should be able to hit RRP for this particular card. When the 3079/80/90 launched the global silicon shortage was only just beginning and no one was predicting it would be like this through to 2023.

There is a clear difference to now where we clearly know that the higher shipping, wages, component costs etc are as they have stabilised for the most part and some of them are slipping back down again. There is no excuse for Nvidia to be suggesting a price that isn’t achievable for a sustained period, let a online today.

If Nvidia set a price that isn’t achievable by AIBs then they should be held to account as it’s just dishonest and probably illegal in the U.K. under advertising rules.
 
ljt said:
I only looked in the owners threads because someone said to look there, so I did. That's all the data I have to go on. I still firmly believe there were a lot more FE models sold than people seem to think. I also was taught to never trust a salesman, so I don't and never will, so I equally don't believe Gibbo either and that will never change.
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Believe what you wish, but when you say things like you only care about UK numbers is daft, NVIDIA is a global company that has bigger markets it sells into than the UK. FE cards are only sold in some markets, whereas AIB cards are sold in all markets, particular the bigger brands. It is probably safe to say that a company like Asus alone has sold more cards than FE cards sold, then factor in all the other partners, MSI, Gigabyte, Zotac, Palit, Inno3D, Galax, EVGA, Manli, PNY, Gainward, plus the Far East partners.

I try to help where I can and share a lot of data that no other reseller would share and I am not in a sales role, I am a buyer, but of course I do list products on the website which in turn the website then sells, so I will accept it is easy to see me a sales person, but consider this I just suggested to people they buy elsewhere if they can find product in stock at MSRP, you won't see many sales men telling you to buy elsehwere. It is just honest advice!
 
Jono8 said:
The 6500xt is still £200, on this very website. overclockers put one model on sale already!

Quite a few with 10+ stock in as well.

Demand for the 6500xt was clearly massively overestimated.
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Yes, there are still versions available for nearer the MSRP, but there are models way above that, and I expect the call for the 3050 to be higher given its performance against the 6500XT, so, where do you think that's going to go price wise, lowering of the 6500XT, or an increase on the 3050.....
 
Trig said:
Yes, there are still versions available for nearer the MSRP, but there are models way above that, and I expect the call for the 3050 to be higher given its performance against the 6500XT, so, where do you think that's going to go price wise, lowering of the 6500XT, or an increase on the 3050.....
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Only the stupid Asus one and idiot scalpers on ebay.

Why make things sound worse than they are? The card is on OCUK for less than £200 with still "10+" in stock meaning they likely have loads.

Just overinflating the price of things is making things worse and part of the problem anyway (making people panic buy/pay over the odds). Many are guilty of this in this forum "OMG its GOING TO BE NINTEY BILLION POOUNDSS!". It just compounds the issue.

The reality is that prices are coming down and stock is staying on the shelves. It isnt hard to track.

Loads of retailers have gone from having basically nothing in stock during parts of last year, to loads of different cards all still with plenty of stock left, and they have been staying in stock for weeks.
 
Jono8 said:
Why make things sound worse than they are? The card is on OCUK for less than £200 with still "10+" in stock meaning they likely have loads.
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I'm simply going off of the OCUK website, nowhere else, so hardly making it sound worse than it is, the figures are in black and white, when you have a card with the performance of the 6500XT, vs the 3050, which way do you think prices are going to go?
 
Gibbo said:
Believe what you wish, but when you say things like you only care about UK numbers kind of shows how naïve you are, NVIDIA is a global company that has bigger markets it sells into than the UK. FE cards are only sold in some markets, whereas AIB cards are sold in all markets, particular the bigger brands. It is probably safe to say that a company like Asus alone has sold more cards than FE cards sold, then factor in all the other partners, MSI, Gigabyte, Zotac, Palit, Inno3D, Galax, EVGA, Manli, PNY, Gainward, plus the Far East partners.

I try to help where I can and share a lot of data that no other reseller would share and I am not in a sales role, I am a buyer, but of course I do list products on the website which in turn the website then sells, so I will accept it is easy to see me a sales person, but consider this I just suggested to people they buy elsewhere if they can find product in stock at MSRP, you won't see many sales men telling you to buy elsehwere. It is just honest advice!
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I'm not naïve, I just literally don't care what cards are selling elsewhere because it has no relevance to me personally. When looking for a product I only look for what is on sale in the UK. I don't care if the FE isn't sold in Russia, all I care about is if it's sold in the UK. That's all I was on about.

I'm equally not disputing that AIB's in total have sold more cards than the FE model, what I stating is that I believe the FE model seems in much higher proportion this time around than I can ever remember it being, which goes against people saying that they are ridiculously rare. It would really be interesting to see the numbers of FE produced, but I don't think that will ever happen.
 
Jono8 said:
Only the stupid Asus one and idiot scalpers on ebay.

Why make things sound worse than they are? The card is on OCUK for less than £200 with still "10+" in stock meaning they likely have loads.

Just overinflating the price of things is making things worse and part of the problem anyway (making people panic buy/pay over the odds). Many are guilty of this in this forum "OMG its GOING TO BE NINTEY BILLION POOUNDSS!". It just compounds the issue.

The reality is that prices are coming down and stock is staying on the shelves. It isnt hard to track.

Loads of retailers have gone from having basically nothing in stock during parts of last year, to loads of different cards all still with plenty of stock left, and they have been staying in stock for weeks.
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I took in 1100 units on the Sapphire 6500 XT, were now down to 660 units and sales are now levelling out at 30-50 a day, the 6500 XT is not the kind of card we would expect people on these forums to be buying.
For us the 6500 XT is a card the market was in dire need of it is putting live back into the smaller SI's who business model was cheap 1080P gaming systems, we ourselves hope to get a full gaming system live next week for £699 with a 6500 XT in it on a gen4 platform, something we have not been able to get close to for a long time and other SI's are doing similar. It is helping sales of other products like cheaper cases, lower wattage power supplies and entry level processors etc. etc.

We expect 6500 XT sales to be strong (at sub £200) but the majority of them will be going into systems or will be sold trade to our customers who operate business's specialising in building more cost effective gaming PC's.
 
Almost all the people I know either got FE models,or some of the AIB models when they were not massively higher than the FE models(nearer launch). WRT,to the RX6600/RX6600XT all the owners I know got them for well under £400 too,and not far off RRP. The reason is almost all the people I know buy parts to upgrade their PCs,either are enthusiasts who know what the RRP should be,or people who rely on us to give them good advice when to buy and are generally patient. There were maybe the odd one or two who did pay beyond the odds,but I seriously think they are way too obsessed with gaming myself.

The rest are not going to loose sleep just because they can't run a game at the highest settings,or whether they have to just play less taxing games.

OFC,I can't vouch for the impatient GAMERZ who have no patience but plenty of us have other hobbies we can spend our money on!
 
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Gibbo said:
I took in 1100 units on the Sapphire 6500 XT, were now down to 660 units and sales are now levelling out at 30-50 a day, the 6500 XT is not the kind of card we would expect people on these forums to be buying.
For us the 6500 XT is a card the market was in dire need of it is putting live back into the smaller SI's who business model was cheap 1080P gaming systems, we ourselves hope to get a full gaming system live next week for £699 with a 6500 XT in it on a gen4 platform, something we have not been able to get close to for a long time and other SI's are doing similar. It is helping sales of other products like cheaper cases, lower wattage power supplies and entry level processors etc. etc.

We expect 6500 XT sales to be strong (at sub £200) but the majority of them will be going into systems or will be sold trade to our customers who operate business's specialising in building more cost effective gaming PC's.
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Well, obviously you werent selling them fast enough/as much as expected at £225 or there is no way they would be on offer so quickly.
 
ljt said:
I'm not naïve, I just literally don't care what cards are selling elsewhere because it has no relevance to me personally. When looking for a product I only look for what is on sale in the UK. I don't care if the FE isn't sold in Russia, all I care about is if it's sold in the UK. That's all I was on about.

I'm equally not disputing that AIB's in total have sold more cards than the FE model, what I stating is that I believe the FE model seems in much higher proportion this time around than I can ever remember it being, which goes against people saying that they are ridiculously rare. It would really be interesting to see the numbers of FE produced, but I don't think that will ever happen.
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The response was with the general theme here, FE sales VS AIB sales, which one has to consider global sales to get a true representation.
Of course FE market share has grown, particular with the 3000 series because the FE series MSRP is vastly lower than the AIB MSRP's. NVIDIA FE pricing is way below AIB pricing, I've had some AIB MSRP's today for 3050's, some are as high as £450, which I will agree with everyone here is a big case of LOL.

I am screaming at the AIB's we want more sub £300 product, no one cares about a crazy OC, super cooled, super high price tag version of what is a low/mid gaming card that should be around £250, but of course we know why AIB's focus on the big OC models, it is because they have more margin there but in cheaper products it makes no sense.
 
Jono8 said:
Well, obviously you werent selling them fast enough/as much as expected at £225 or there is no way they would be on offer so quickly.
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Nope, we sold the stock we had at £179, at £225 the sales dropped to less than 20 units per day, so I went back to Sapphire and said we need to sell at £199 can you help, they gave some assistance and we dropped our margin to 10% and were at £199 and sales are much better now.
All partners are been pushed to support their cost to get their prices down, the £250 plus cards have zero sales, but equally I have taken in zero stock as none is available and when it is I shall buy very little, the 6500 XT is a sub £200 all day long, the 3050 is a sub £300 card all day long.
 
Gibbo said:
Nope, we sold the stock we had at £179, at £225 the sales dropped to less than 20 units per day, so I went back to Sapphire and said we need to sell at £199 can you help, they gave some assistance and we dropped our margin to 10% and were at £199 and sales are much better now.
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"Nope" - you then went on to explain that it was because you werent selling enough :confused:
 
How many genuine gamers are prepared to buy a card at double the mrsp, for say well over £1000. I would suggest, not many. Unless you're rich, an idiot, or a mixture of both.

The only people I know who have bought pre scalped AIB cards, are miners. Come Aprils electricity rise, they're out.
 
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