RTX 4070 12GB, is it Worth it?

[Aretak]

The 4070 is expected to have performance that sits between, RTX 3080 Ti and an RTX 3080, and Nvidia seems to have decided to set the price as well between the, RTX 3080 Ti and an RTX 3080.

I sincerely doubt it'll even achieve that at higher resolutions thanks to the ultra-gimped memory bus. The alleged specs are heavily cut down from the 4070 Ti, with only 76% of the CUDA cores, and a 3080 achieves 87% of a 4070 Ti's performance at 4K based on TechPowerUp's review data (83% at 1440p). The 4070 Ti matches a 3090 Ti at 1440p, but only a regular 3090 at 4K. It'll be quite funny if this costs more than a 3080 for less performance at serious resolutions more than two and a half years later.

 

[Author_25]

Really for the performance it offers it should be no more than 400 quid for the 4070FE, the 3060ti sat between a 2080 and 2080ti and cost £369.

For the performance it offers it should be a 4060 Ti.

 

[kalniel]

I'm not sure whether to try to buy a used RTX 3080 for ~£500, or maybe get a RTX 4070 FE for £600...

I think Nvidia will make the choice for you..

 

[Alt0153]

3080 10g performace at the same price of nearly 3 years ago, great deal.. /s

 

[g67575]

It's just going to be like the RTX 4070 TI with less shaders, probably with GDDR6X. No reason to think it will be slower than a RTX 3080.

We don't know the GPU clock speed yet, I think they will push it fairly high.

 

[tommybhoy]

No reason to think it will be slower than a RTX 3080.

3 X Faster will be on the slides again.

 

[g67575]

3 X Faster will be on the slides again.

Wouldn't put it past them...

 

[Author_25]

It's just going to be like the RTX 4070 TI with less shaders, probably with GDDR6X. No reason to think it will be slower than a RTX 3080.

We don't know the GPU clock speed yet, I think they will push it fairly high.

VideoCardz.com are reporting, Base clock as, 1920MHz, and, Boost Clock as, 2475MHz.

 

[g67575]

Yeah, the spec is wrong isn't it.

They'd be too much of a gap between the RTX 4070 and 4070 TI.

No reason to gimp a card with low stock clocks, particularly with the improved coolers with this generation.

 

[Haz123]

Well we know the 5nm TSMC silicon can be pushed to 3ghz with the Lovelace chips but to do so runs them well outside the ideal performance/watt window. Pushing the clock speeds up on a cut down chip is never a good idea imo and you can never adequately make up the 25% less shaders with extra clockspeed when the compared chips are on the same manufacturing node.

If it is released at £750 while the 4070ti is at £850 then it will be the biggest turkey of this gen so far. Nvs entire strategy seems to be release worse value chips the lower down the product stack you go and this is the reverse of every generation for ...well forever.

 

[g67575]

TDP of the 4070 TI is 285w, don't think it matters much if the RTX 4070 has a similar tdp.

To actually get a higher pixel rate, texture rate, FP32 floating point processing power than the stock RTX 3080, the RTX 4070 GPU will need to be clocked higher than 2475Mhz.

But, like the RTX 4070 TI, it will struggle with total memory bandwidth - but this is compensated by the significantly higher amount of L2 cache.

 

[g67575]

I think we will have to wait and see if the shader count of 5,888 is correct, as it seems too much of step down from the 4070 TI.

 

[Author_25]

I think we will have to wait and see if the shader count of 5,888 is correct, as it seems too much of step down from the 4070 TI.

Depressingly, 5,888 CUDA cores, is probably correct.

 

[Joxeon]

Yeah, the spec is wrong isn't it.

They'd be too much of a gap between the RTX 4070 and 4070 TI.

No reason to gimp a card with low stock clocks, particularly with the improved coolers with this generation.

Have you not learned anything from this generation? its all about the upsell, make the lower down card considerably worse in performance to push the higher more expensive model. We've so far seen this with the 4080 > 4090 and the 7900XT > 7900XTX so it wouldn't be a surprise if Nvidia again goes down this route with the 4070 and makes it 20% slower for 12% less money so say £700 vs 800 to make people think the rubbish 4070ti is not so bad after all.

 

[G J]

Given a 3060ti FE had a price of £369 nearly two and a half years ago sorry but the people buying the cards are also the problem as people are falling over themselves paying £300+ for second hand 3060's 12GB and 3060ti's so the chances of having a 4070 or a 4060 at any resonable price is zero.

 

[Author_25]

Maybe, just maybe, AMD will have learnt a lesson with the 7900XT, and price the 7800XT, 7700XT and 7600XT, at more reasonable and realistic prices.

 

[Joxeon]

Maybe, just maybe, AMD will have learnt a lesson with the 7900XT, and price the 7800XT, 7700XT and 7600XT, at more reasonable and realistic prices.

£300/400/500 would be about right judging on the performance they are rumoured to offer.

 

[philmo]

I'm not sure whether to try to buy a used RTX 3080 for ~£500, or maybe get a RTX 4070 FE for £600...

The question is whether you have to rely on Telegram (or the like) top spend so much time actually trying to get a 4070 FE, the price means little if you cannot get one. Although it looks like FE cards are hanging around longer (the 4080 is in stock - but at that price I guess it would be).

 

[Author_25]

£300/400/500 would be about right judging on the performance they are rumoured to offer.

I thinking, £600/£500/£400, given inflation, but we can hope for lower.

 

[Hotwired]

Once again I'm hearing prayers of AMD pricing their cards lower... to get the desired Nvidia cards lower...

It's definitely got the weight of a prayer. AMD has to drop prices without any benefit to them, for people that won't buy

They can just stay just below Nvidia pricing and the money coming in or not will tell the truth.