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RTX 4070 12GB, is it Worth it?

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CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
I calculated with 20% VAT,it will be £580 at the current exchange rates.


Basically yes. But it's worse when you realise the RTX4070 is really an RTX3060 class dGPU. So you have a salvaged 295MM2 AD104 which replaces a salvaged 628MM2 GA102. But more importantly,the RTX3080 had a 320 bit memory bus,at a time GDDR6 was expensive and needed 10 VRAM chips on the PCB. The RTX4070 has a 192 bit memory bus in a time where GDDR6/GDDR6X costs less,plus it needs a much cheaper PCB and cooler setup. It only needs 6 VRAM chips on the PCB.
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Your average consumer won't realise this, the only numbers they will see is its cheaper than a 3080 and gives relatively the same performance. They just won't realise how bad the gpu really is and how much of a con it is.
 
We know nvidia are scamming but in the context of current prices, 3080 performance with more vram for under £600 is not that terrible. Though, if it's behind it in RT and at higher resolution then **** buy.
 
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Jay85 said:
Your average consumer won't realise this, the only numbers they will see is its cheaper than a 3080 and gives relatively the same performance. They just won't realise how bad the gpu really is and how much of a con it is.
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The big issue is that the RTX4060 and RTX4060TI are going to be not great as a result. Sadly Nvidia got away with Kepler MK1 and Turing MK1 too. In both cases they took lower tier dGPUs and pushed them up a tier(this happened in both cases when AMD couldn't compete at the top end).

RavenXXX2 said:
We know nvidia are scamming but in the context of current prices, 3080 performance with more vram for under £600 is not that terrible. Though, if it's behind it in RT and at higher resolution then **** buy.
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But it also makes the RTX4060 and RTX4060TI even worse. That means the RTX4060TI will cost just above £400 for possibly RTX3070 level performance. We are also seeing in laptops the RX7600S is doing pretty well against an RTX4060 and the RX7600 is still made on 7NM. AD106 must be really weak.
 
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4070 - $600
3070 - $499 - (2020, $580 adjusted)
2070 - $529 - (2018, $633 adjusted)
1070 - $399 - (2016, $500 adjusted)

I guess with this framing it doesn't seem as bad?
 
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hardly hear anything about AMD releasing more cards lower down the stack, nvidia will have 4 cards released now , when we expecting 7700xt/7800xt whatever they decide to call it
 
uscool said:
hardly hear anything about AMD releasing more cards lower down the stack, nvidia will have 4 cards released now , when we expecting 7700xt/7800xt whatever they decide to call it
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I think they are waiting on Nvidia, I have heard rumours of June but take that with a large pinch of salt! I'm interested to see what the 7800XT is like.
 
timorous said:
That is not what he said though is it. He said the amount of work and time it takes to redo all the assets to fit into an 8GB VRAM buffer is not worth the cost.
with the 1000 series and they will be very strong parts which will last until the PS6 generation starts to come out of the cross gen phase where VRAM usage will go up again.
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What does the amount of work not worth mean? I'm sure it's worth it for the customer buying your game, right?

My problem isn't that the games require a lot of vram. I wish they required 48 gb of vram, no problem with that. My problem is that the games that require a ton of vram usually look either terrible or barely passable, compared to games that do not hog vram like crazy. How is that happening if the issue isn't 100% on the devs being absurdly lazy on said games.
 
doodah said:
4070 - $600
3070 - $499 - (2020, $580 adjusted)
2070 - $529 - (2018, $633 adjusted)
1070 - $399 - (2014, $500 adjusted)

I guess with this framing it doesn't seem as bad?
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GTX1070 was a 2016 card and I bought mine on release for £299.99 - about £380 in today's money albeit there might be some variance there with Dollar to Pound exchange rate but still (started about $380 in the US - about $480 today so with today's prices would probably be about £480 as well).

EDIT: Not to mention the 4070 realistically is a x60 class card at best - so it should really be a $380 now.
 
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Andorphine said:
Probably 6950XT performance for about $600 with better RT. Waiting for that one, too :)
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Yes I looked at the 4070Ti but too expensive and the 4070 looks to be a bit slower. My 3060Ti FE has been a good card, occasional issue with multimonitor but that is apparently not unusual for Nvidia. Pricing is obviously the issue with all these cards given the amount of in-stock items out there.
 
Troezar said:
I think they are waiting on Nvidia, I have heard rumours of June but take that with a large pinch of salt! I'm interested to see what the 7800XT is like.
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I think it's going to be weak compared to 6800/6900xt (with only 3840 shaders) so personally think they're waiting for FSR 3.0 to be done to launch it alongside, thereby pulling a similar trick to Nvidia.
 
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doodah said:
4070 - $600
3070 - $499 - (2020, $580 adjusted)
2070 - $529 - (2018, $633 adjusted)
1070 - $399 - (2014, $500 adjusted)

I guess with this framing it doesn't seem as bad?
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It doesn't till you see the performance.
Joxeon said:
So ADA is basically the worse generation ever despite the 4090 delivering above average gains.

GTX 780 > 970 +21%
GTX 980 > 1070 +29%
GTX 1080 > 2070 +16%
RTX 2080 > 3070 +27%
RTX 3080 > 4070 +-0% and despite the worse gains in the past 10 years a $100 price increase tacked on for good measure.
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Also when you add in the real 4070 you realise just how much the price has risen.

RTX3080 > 4070ti +17%
 
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