RTX 4070 12GB, is it Worth it?

Troezar · 13 Apr 2023 at 14:19

Must be plenty of stock as not selling out as fast as I expected. The nations credit must be maxed out :cry:

Gibbo · 13 Apr 2023 at 14:20

Troezar said:
Must be plenty of stock as not selling out as fast as I expected. The nations credit must be maxed out

As I say we have over 1000 of the MSRP lines.

Andorphine · 13 Apr 2023 at 14:21

Sgt_Major said:
Nobody cares, as a customer who has been waiting for a new GPU around the £500-£600 price point, THIS AINT IT!, SHOCKINGLY POOR GPU, borrrring, move along....

The sad thing is that if AMD had something competitive remotely close to launching (7800XT), they could have just announced it yesterday to get some of the folks waiting for ages for an upgrade that now might buy a 4070. Buying a 6800 XT for the same price is not competitive because of the limited feature set and poorer efficiency.

Jay85 · 13 Apr 2023 at 14:22

Andorphine said:
The sad thing is that if AMD had something competitive remotely close to launching (7800XT), they could have just announced it yesterday to get some of the folks waiting for ages for an upgrade that now might buy a 4070. Buying a 6800 XT for the same price is not competitive because of the limited feature set and poorer efficiency.

I mean there is a 14 day window to return, no questions asked if that does happen from now till then.

Andorphine · 13 Apr 2023 at 14:27

Jay85 said:
I mean there is a 14 day window to return, no questions asked if that does happen from now till then.

Sure, as a tech savvy consumer, you might do that if that happens. However, most people would not bother going through that process. AMD's marketing is just incredibly stupid. This half-assed "you're stupid if you buy a 4070 because of VRAM" campaign was just sad.

Taskone · 13 Apr 2023 at 14:27

Andorphine said:
The sad thing is that if AMD had something competitive remotely close to launching (7800XT), they could have just announced it yesterday to get some of the folks waiting for ages for an upgrade that now might buy a 4070. Buying a 6800 XT for the same price is not competitive because of the limited feature set and poorer efficiency.

Exactly, I was eager to see a 7800xt come out, but as there is no whisper of it, I did get a 4070 there on the launch. Mega disappointed in AMD, but I get it, they may be focusing on higher profit areas of their business, but still could have done better here.

Sgt_Major · 13 Apr 2023 at 14:30

Ayahuasca said:
If only that were true, the 4070 will likely be a very good seller for nVidia as they've manipulated the market to make it so.

Unfortunately the vast majority of buyers are poorly informed on what is and is not a good buy, and/or have little to no self control & patience.

Troezar · 13 Apr 2023 at 14:31

Taskone said:
Exactly, I was eager to see a 7800xt come out, but as there is no whisper of it, I did get a 4070 there on the launch. Mega disappointed in AMD, but I get it, they may be focusing on higher profit areas of their business, but still could have done better here.

I think quite a few will do just that. I'd like something but not quite convinced with the current options :confused:

Jono8 · 13 Apr 2023 at 14:31

these certainly are not flying off the shelves. Still loads in stock everywhere.

Sgt_Major · 13 Apr 2023 at 14:31

Gibbo said:
As I say we have over 1000 of the MSRP lines.

Let them gather dust on shelves mate, that's what they deserve, any "gamer" buying this to put in their PC has no clue, "fool and their money.." as the saying goes.

Andorphine · 13 Apr 2023 at 14:33

Jono8 said:
these certainly are not flying off the shelves. Still loads in stock everywhere.

Even the FE is still in stock

random_matt · 13 Apr 2023 at 14:34

Are NVIDIA buyers still blaming AMD for their predicaments? :cry:

You guys would still buy regardless, enjoy you planned obsolescence. 12GB VRAM :cry:

Rup · 13 Apr 2023 at 14:35

Wouldnt let me buy an FE for my second PC (already have 4090 fe) and the only non-fe I wanted is the Asus TUF. Which is £150 over MSRP!
Guess will keep my 3070 for another generation then.

uscool · 13 Apr 2023 at 14:36

people with 10 / 20 series probably will upgrade to these

Jono8 · 13 Apr 2023 at 14:36

Got to say. Isn't it refreshing to still have RRP cards in stock everywhere over 30 minutes after launch?

Lovely stuff

Ayahuasca · 13 Apr 2023 at 14:36

Jono8 said:
these certainly are not flying off the shelves. Still loads in stock everywhere.

Supply is much greater on release than it was for the other 4 series cards.

Andorphine · 13 Apr 2023 at 14:37

Troezar said:
I think quite a few will do just that. I'd like something but not quite convinced with the current options

Same. There is just nothing viable on the market:

-4070: very poor value, neutered chip, bus, and VRAM for £600...
-6950 XT: good value (can be had for £639), but would require a PSU (and potentially case) upgrade
-6800 XT: same price as the 4070 at the moment, but better VRAM. Given the better efficiency of the 4070, I would have a hard time choosing a 6800 XT for the same money at the moment. Of these were £500, this would be a different story.

Taskone · 13 Apr 2023 at 14:37

uscool said:
people with 10 / 20 series probably will upgrade to these

Absolutely, am upgrading from a 1070 to this, and despite the frustrating lack of vram, I was enticed by the performance per watt, as electricity prices keep going up.

gpuerrilla · 13 Apr 2023 at 14:38

Jono8 said:
Got to say. Isn't it refreshing to still have RRP cards in stock everywhere over 30 minutes after launch?

Lovely stuff

Still in stock! Nothing like 2020/21

Alt0153 · 13 Apr 2023 at 14:38

Rup said:
Wouldnt let me buy an FE for my second PC (already have 4090 fe) and the only non-fe I wanted is the Asus TUF. Which is £150 over MSRP!
Guess will keep my 3070 for another generation then.

because its 1fe card per gen per person