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Phixsator said:
Ahh yes, I've had that problem myself. My gigabyte boards have had a tendency every 4-6 months to go a bit ape and the solution for me has been to reflash the bios even if it's the same bios going on the board(once it was enough to load defaults). Not saying it's the same for you but this ain't a windows problem since you've tried both fresh win11 and win10. Outside of this I would perhaps make sure everything is mounted correctly, not loose but not over tightened.
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I.ve done that already I even tried a older version bios just in case then went back to the latest with no joy
 
Wing-Man said:
install GeForce experience and let it optimize games for you just incase you have some random setting all cocked up,

But TBF things like this in my experience are not GPU related but down to other hardwear stuttering. for me normally CPU related
if you have any OC or undervolt remover it.
if you have been playing with ram timings / speed... reset it.
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MY bios has set PBO to auto shall I disable that?
 
wookiee87 said:
i would have a look at the firmware version on the ssd you have and also have a look at your bios version, you mention that your old setup had similar problems, were you using the 980 pro ssd back then?.

Kinda a long shot but it could be a faulty ssd, when the 980's first came out there were reports of laggy/stuttering behaviour in windows and games and it was found to be a faulty batch of ssd's from samsung were to blame, a firmare upadate was released and it was highly recommended to install asap, the drives that were affected were the 2tb versions but lower capacity were also impacted, if your drive has firmare verison 3B2QGXA7, you need to update, download a program called samasung magician, within in this program you can check firmare versions and update if outdated.
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I Tried it on different SSD's drives to see if it was the drive but had the same problem, Do you recommend me installing the driver for my drive anyway just in case?
 
Lee Charles said:
Morning.

Should I enable resize bar and GPU scheduling?
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Rebar 100% turn on, you wont need scheduling as that is a feature that will offload work from your cpu to the gpu, the main point of it is if you have a lower tier cpu scheduling will transfer some of the load from the cpu to the gpu, but because you have a 5800x you wont need to do that, 8c/16t is more than enough for gaming.

Check your power settings within control pannel, make sure your your on something like balanced or high performance, if its set to power saver that will impact the cpu and gpu in games, timespy is a heavy load that will make your components run at almost 100% most of the time, but games are much less demanding, if power saver is enabled it may explian why your lagging in game, if the game in question doesnt require the gpu it may revert to low power mode causing the stutter, same goes for the cpu.

Head to control pannel and under power options check what your set to and change it.
 
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wonder if it's windows background processes / telemetry / bloatware

try:

www.builtbybel.com

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Lee Charles said:
Morning.

Should I enable resize bar and GPU scheduling?
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You can, but shouldn't be the source of your problems.

Do you know how to disable devices? Turn them off one at a time.

16GB of RAM is plenty and it if it persists after a fresh install of windows, won't be bloatware.
 
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muon said:
Windows won't be the cause. Everyone on this forum has windows installed.
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Depends how they've configured settings as to what junk is happening in the background.

Anyway, stop trying to trash my suggestion, have a good day.

The guy can review his settings and decide for himself.
 
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Lee Charles said:
MY bios has set PBO to auto shall I disable that?
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Missed this, yes definitely for now, while you solve the problem. I've had issues like yours (low load stutters) with PBO, but because I was too aggressive on curve optimiser settings. Default settings should be safe, but worth removing it for now.

This has also reminded me that some Ryzen chips used to have problems with cache errors. Can't remember how you could diagnose it, so I'll find a link.

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Produces hard resets, so unlikely to be the cache issue.

 
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Thanks again guys I've tried everything possible that you all said to solve the stutters in games but still no joy. and I might just go and buy the 5800X3D got a felling my CPU is the issue.

Appreciate all the help
 
are you able to see what the cpu and gpu clocks drop to during the stutters, i'd hold off buying a x3d for the moment as you will need to check your bios version beforehand, x3d isnt suppoted out of box so if you did buy one and install chances it wont work, you need to look online on your motherboard support page and find the bios that has support for x3d and install first before the cpu!
 
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wookiee87 said:
are you able to see what the cpu and gpu clocks drop to during the stutters, i'd hold off buying a x3d for the moment as you will need to check your bios version beforehand, x3d isnt suppoted out of box so if you did buy one and install chances it wont work, you need to look online on your motherboard support page and find the bios that has support for x3d and install first before the cpu!
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I've Updated to the latest bios that supports the X3D I did try different bios version to see if that would fix the issue but back on the newest version now, I've read up on the 5800x paired with an 5800x and people are saying It's the cpu that's the bottleneck. I'm also on 3200mhz ram so might get a 32gb of 3600mhz as well?
 
Lee Charles said:
Thanks again guys I've tried everything possible that you all said to solve the stutters in games but still no joy. and I might just go and buy the 5800X3D got a felling my CPU is the issue.

Appreciate all the help
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Unless the CPU is confirmed broken, I wouldn't.

Turned off PBO? Could turn of boost completely and see if that helps. If it does then there may be an issue with the CPU.
 
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Lee Charles said:
I've Updated to the latest bios that supports the X3D I did try different bios version to see if that would fix the issue but back on the newest version now, I've read up on the 5800x paired with an 5800x and people are saying It's the cpu that's the bottleneck. I'm also on 3200mhz ram so might get a 32gb of 3600mhz as well?
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Fair enough, if you can find a decent priced set 2x16gb 3600mhz ddr4 then go for it, however if you swap the CPU and ram and still get the lag problems then it's troubleshooting the PSU as a first step. It seemes a decent unit, but I can't see how old it is?, unless you've said and I missed it
 
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