Russell Brand.

kitch9 · 20 Sep 2023 at 21:43

Colonel_Klinck said:
You think the kids abused by clergy had evidence? If Spotlight had relied on just evidence that story would never have made it to print. Same with the Weinstein story.

Witness statements are evidence. They need to be scrutinised under legal supervision to be admissible in court.

You know, police interviews, solicitor present etc?

Unfortunately a lot of stories fall apart with even the most basic of scrutiny.

Unfortunately lives are completely destroyed before we even get to this point as things are.

Hades · 20 Sep 2023 at 21:43

explicit4u said:
Not sure if i've been reading too many posts from 'the other side' but this seems.... bizzare? Why are the government writing to social media companies (they also sent one to tiktok apparently) before he's even been convicted of any crime? And what does his unrelated content (other than the reply video) have to do with these allegations?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1704584929026216118

Wow, that is highly inappropriate for the government to try to influence private companies over someone who has not even been charged with anything yet.

Chuk_Chuk · 20 Sep 2023 at 21:46

Hedge said:
"investigative journalists" need an operating budget. An editor will decide what they are allowed to investigate. They are sent out like attack dogs. Don't pretend they have any public interests in mind.

A point that coffeezilla raised on a podcast is personal safety (More so when discussing corruption in the same country that you live in). If you are dealing with someone who is corrupt their morals won’t stop them coming after you, when you start messing with their money tree. There is an Australian YouTuber who recently had his house firebombed. He was revealing the corruption of one of their local politicians.

For some it is Better to not stir the pot.

They allegedly spent 4 years on this investigation. They could have been investigating where all the money for HS2 is being siphoned instead.

Begbie · 20 Sep 2023 at 21:49

Why on earth are the government involved?

Richie · 20 Sep 2023 at 21:49

Regarding that letter to Rumble - I'd encourage people to write a quick complaint email - [email protected]

plasmahal · 20 Sep 2023 at 21:51

kitch9 · 20 Sep 2023 at 21:53

explicit4u said:
Not sure if i've been reading too many posts from 'the other side' but this seems.... bizzare? Why are the government writing to social media companies (they also sent one to tiktok apparently) before he's even been convicted of any crime? And what does his unrelated content (other than the reply video) have to do with these allegations?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1704584929026216118

If anyone isn't completely disturbed by that, enjoy your assimilation.

Try not to bleat too loud.

Zefan · 20 Sep 2023 at 21:53

explicit4u said:
Not sure if i've been reading too many posts from 'the other side' but this seems.... bizzare? Why are the government writing to social media companies (they also sent one to tiktok apparently) before he's even been convicted of any crime? And what does his unrelated content (other than the reply video) have to do with these allegations?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1704584929026216118

This is mad and not even close to acceptable, I'm going to write to my MP about my concerns.

Richie said:
Regarding that letter to Rumble - I'd encourage people to write a quick complaint email - [email protected]

And this.

silvagti · 20 Sep 2023 at 21:55

Hades said:
Wow, that is highly inappropriate for the government to try to influence private companies over someone who has not even been charged with anything yet.

Very strange and quite a disturbing turn if this letter is geniune. I wonder what grounds they have to demand that someone accused by anonymous individuals of a crime should be denied access to any source of income and removed from social media platforms? What next? Banks freezing his accounts?

Bizarre that the government should be taking any interest in this before any kind of official legal action has been taken against him? Even then surely until found guilty nothing should be done against anyone?

C Kent · 20 Sep 2023 at 21:57

Going to give those 'conspiracy theorists' saying this isnt about any sort of valid SA/Rape charges and more an attempt to silence someone who has too much of a reach more ammo isnt it. I wonder if any one on the left will think its a bit suss?

Richie · 20 Sep 2023 at 21:59

silvagti said:
Very strange and quite a disturbing turn if this letter is geniune.

Appears to be genuine... Various news outlets reporting on it including the Independent.

Apparently the letter has went to various platforms including X, Rumble and TikTok amongst others.

Bang out of order... Complaints to [email protected]

gingergundog · 20 Sep 2023 at 22:08

Zefan said:
This is mad and not even close to acceptable, I'm going to write to my MP about my concerns.

And this.

Fred needs to have a word

Roar87 · 20 Sep 2023 at 22:10

C Kent said:
Going to give those 'conspiracy theorists' saying this isnt about any sort of valid SA/Rape charges and more an attempt to silence someone who has too much of a reach more ammo isnt it. I wonder if any one on the left will think its a bit suss?

Called it at the start of all of this, it's text book de-platforming of the guy making a lot of noise about people in power. The problem with Russell Brand is that he's not some random Youtuber, he's very famous and talking about the types of things he is.

One More Solo · 20 Sep 2023 at 22:10

melmac said:
You don't have to believe me. Katherine McPhee came out herself and said the same thing in response to the Daily Mail posting that video.

OMG GOTCHA

I'm glad she's given her side of the story and I'm happy to be corrected on my reading of her reactions. *shrug* I still find the way he acted uncomfortable and think it normalises unhealthy behaviour, but I'm glad she was OK with it.

[FnG]magnolia · 20 Sep 2023 at 22:14

Roar87 said:
Called it at the start of all of this, it's text book de-platforming of the guy making a lot of noise about people in power. The problem with Russell Brand is that he's not some random Youtuber, he's very famous and talking about the types of things he is.

There are teens on youtube making videos about arts and crafts who have more followers and views than him. Settle down.

Roar87 · 20 Sep 2023 at 22:17

[FnG]magnolia said:
There are teens on youtube making videos about arts and crafts who have more followers and views than him. Settle down.

Yet none of them would occupy the front page of the BBC News website for more than 30 seconds because outside of 8 year old children no one has a ******* clue who they are, compared with someone who's been in multiple big Hollywood movies.

C Kent · 20 Sep 2023 at 22:18

Roar87 said:
Called it at the start of all of this, it's text book de-platforming of the guy making a lot of noise about people in power. The problem with Russell Brand is that he's not some random Youtuber, he's very famous and talking about the types of things he is.

Dunno about you but I eagerly await how @Colonel_Klinck @Mercenary Keyboard Warrior @dlockers @VincentHanna and mags will be spinning this to be a big ol nothing burger :cry:

gingergundog · 20 Sep 2023 at 22:18

One More Solo said:
OMG GOTCHA

I'm glad she's given her side of the story and I'm happy to be corrected on my reading of her reactions. *shrug* I still find the way he acted uncomfortable and think it normalises unhealthy behaviour, but I'm glad she was OK with it.

I find this so bizarre, its like you are looking for something in that situation to be offended about even when admitting that actually nothing untoward was going on.

Hedge · 20 Sep 2023 at 22:32

This has taken a pretty concerning turn.

Colonel_Klinck · 20 Sep 2023 at 22:32

robgmun said:
It's utterly bizarre, I was never convinced of his new political stances. It always came off to me as inauthentic and showboating. Something to massage his messiah complex, he's been nothing but a BS artist from day one.

Thing is the "right" or at least a significant % of it has changed in the last few years. Now it it isn't about being small "c" conservative, its about believing in a NWO that is controlling us all through elites and globalists. Its about nonsense like Qanon and conspiracies to replace them with trans drag queens and them turning all children gay and trans. Its about pharmaceutical companies controlling us with their products, sterilising the masses to reduce the population. Bill Gates putting chips in vaccines so we can all be tracked. So the fact Brand is a champagne socialist is irrelevant to these people because all that other stuff is more important and he feeds their delusions. Good luck bringing people back to from there, you can't rationalise with the irrational.