I thought these shows are scripted, however regarding the bit in bold. You're either a liar, delusional or both, if that is what you think happened in first part of the clip.
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Russell Brand.
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I don't think it's a laugh, I think it's 2 adults who are seemingly mutually attracted to each other on a talk show flirting. I don't think we should be accusing men of being Jimmy Savile for flirting with women, women often like being flirted with when it's done correctly by a man they find attractive.
A little risk makes everything more interesting.
The correct response would have been to pull away from him when he first reached for her hand and joked, "I'm a married woman!"
You don't voluntarily sit on someone's lap and offer to conduct and interview from there. She's the one condoning the behaviour up until she chose not to. With people like Brand (and I would use it as a general rule) if you're not comfortable don't play along from the outset.
It was a recorded segment, they could have reshot if Brand had been a problem. Part of the reason he was/is famous is this exact behaviour that was rewarded with validation time and time again. He didn't pull her onto his lap, she chose to go there.
Plenty of women in abusive relationships don't leave their partner, sometimes the idea of choice is dangerous...
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I would take that with a massive pinch of salt given the 'proof' of forgery/evidence tampering is pretty weak-sauce when the 'proof' is likely to have been where multiple screenshots were stitched together, as you can't easily screenshot the entire (or sections of) chain in one-go (i've had to do this for employee investigations with work phones), or where they've created the graphic depicting the text within the text-message, which is similar to what other outlets have done, eg - The Sun (https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/23985337/brand-accused-of-raping-woman-in-la-apartment/).
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If it's on Whatsapp:
Widescreen monitor.
Rotate into portrait mode.
Use Whatsapp web.
Screenshot the whole thing in one go.
It might be possible on other messaging apps too.
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You see Roar sees what he wants to see. She smiled so she is bang up for it! Remember this is a guy who said that victims of rape and sexual assault are asking for it when they put themselves in the company of the perpetrator. That or they are lying about the assault or just want a payout.
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She is literally keeping him at arms length. He has her arm behind her back. You want her to cause a scene in front of an audience? Like many women she takes the passive way out and goes along with it. The host can see what is happening.
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She physically got up and sat on his lap hahahaha
I agree.
It looks like she was initially ok with the lap sitting then realised quickly that she made an error and then wanted no more of it (who hasn't done things in a spur of the moment and then realised it was a mistake).
I would argue that she herself realised she put herself in the initial position hence why the extrication was very subtle and she didn't make a big scene i.e. she accepted some responsibility and was adult enough to realise it... Shame RB didnt seem to notice.
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In fairness, I think she allows things up to a point then Brand takes it too far and the host face palms in a FFS manner towards Brand - in work so no sound. The hand behind back isn't under force - being overly handy as she gets up is where Brand is taking it too far.
Not a fan of Brand by any stretch but I think this is a case of throwing poop and seeing what sticks. Media, as per these days, loosing any grip of reality when it comes to the story itself and the accused being dump by anyone with even a minor working relationship with them.
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Very much seems that way.
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I think most confident men right now would be in trouble as most men tend to flirt a little with women, even with no malice or predatory intent.
I mean this morning walking in London I smiled at a very attractive women, she seemed a bit unsure, but after a quick chat she was absolutely fine and happy I wasn't a creep or anything. However, I'm not surprised that that's the instinctive reaction that women have, as the toxic behaviours of some men, screw it up for all the other men.
I mean this morning walking in London I smiled at a very attractive women, she seemed a bit unsure, but after a quick chat she was absolutely fine and happy I wasn't a creep or anything. However, I'm not surprised that that's the instinctive reaction that women have, as the toxic behaviours of some men, screw it up for all the other men.
Can you elaborate?
Can get awkward though. At times I’ve had women take a little flirt or smile too far and seen it as something more than some fun. A couple of times very much too far. I usually reframe from flirting.
Basically just offering up the concept of why it might be more complicated than what we perceive at a glance.