Man of Honour
They might see a conspiracy around every corner...
Russian airliner missing over Egypt
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They might see a conspiracy around every corner...
Soldato
Ok, and shall we do a list of all the events where drills were not being carried out or does that not suit the argument?
I would expect that military and political events happen regularly all over the world. You could pick any day and find something happening nearby.
So you're saying it was shot down by an Israeli or other country's fighter plane?
You'd think they'd have noticed a live missile missing?
Hijacked aircraft being flow towards a city?
Drill on how they respond whether they would shoot it down,if so where etc?
Man of Honour
Didn't you know that the Israelis were firing their deadly AIM-8.2 Sparrow Tin Foil air-to-air missile. It's capabilities are quite amazing as it even permeates internet connections as a countermeasure.
Possibly, although I'm sure that's all been changed post 9/11. But the whole usaf running a drill which caused norad to fail (not that it could have done anything) on that day is a weird thing to say that also doesn't really make any sense.
Iirc norad were actually running basically a 9/11 drill on the day it happened so there was some confusion and response times where much slower which is why the planes weren't simply shot down over the bay rather than reaching the city.
Commissario
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9/11
NORAD were conducting fairly normal drills.
The bigger reason for the lack of initial response was that no one had expected anything like it to happen, and the likes of the Air Force had not been concerned with air attacks happening within the US without them passing the borders (internally American air security was light, there had never been a real need for interceptors to be armed to deal with flights originating inside the border).
London Tube.
It was IIRC a small scale training excercise for management of one department, something done routinely.
On virtually any day of the year government departments, emergency services, security services, large public bodies such as TFL or the Nuclear industry will be running training drills for one contingency or another. You only ever hear about them if they're really large scale (IE hundreds of people involved in a public area such as the combined major incident drills the Police, Ambulance and Fire services run a couple of times a year), or something happens on that day that the CT's can latch onto.
U.S.S. Liberty.
Again, Israel, a country effectively in a near constant state of war readiness running naval drills...Not exactly unusual, especially in a country where virtually everyone is expected to be part of the armed forces thus they're constantly training up new personal who need to be drilled, trained and tested in exercises to allow evaluation of them individually and as teams.
Sinai air crash.
Again it's a smallish area, and the Israelis will likely be doing some form of exercises most days for training, they also do a lot of combined ones with personal and equipment from other countries (partly because they both buy and sell military equipment to a lot of other countries which means they need to evaluate their equipment, personal and tactics).
Man of Honour
My auntie landed this morning and is in an airline-provided hire car returning home now 
Commissario
I don't think NORAD ever had armed aircraft in that part of the country on rapid deployment status.
They had some jets that could be scrambled within a few minutes, and were scrambled when they realised something was up, but they were not armed as it was not policy for them to be armed.
Something to do with the risks of having an armed and fuelled fighter/interceptor on the runway being far too high* given that they never expected an attack from an aircraft that had not got to pass the borders (and thus give them time to prep an aircraft).
*There have been some very nasty incidents resulting from things like missiles left on aircraft at a high readiness state, so unless they're either at a state of war, or operationally required (such as the ready fighters on a carrier) they don't do it.
Commissario
My auntie landed this morning and is in an airline-provided hire car returning home now
Good to hear
Soldato
Soldato
it was the six day war - so not a war drill - BUT the ship identified itself clearly and the Israeli`s kept attacking
Man of Honour
I kept it in mind for about 5 seconds and it flew straight out of my arse.
Seriously dude, get a life.
Soldato
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Careful Dimple, don't you know he's considerably smarter and richer than yow?
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Man of Honour
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Also, don't forget that in 2003 a malfunctioning USAF Patriot missile battery shot down an RAF Tornado GR4, and on the same day B&Q had a special offer on a drill!
The F-16's sent after United Airlines Flight 93 (the fourth plane which crashed near Pittsburgh after the passengers zerg rushed the hijackers) were actually launched unarmed due to not having time to fit missiles. The pilots planned to ram the tail and cockpit respectively but got recalled after the plane went down.