Russian Grand Prix 2015, Sochi - Race 15/19

Without similar failures for Hamilton last year he would never have at any stage led the championship last year, which he conveniently forgets. Likewise without his cheating at Monaco and hitting Hamilton at Spa he wouldn't have been in the fight near the end.

he's not in the title fight this year because he's too slow and he's had one, ONE extra failures than Hamilton currently but is miles behind. He gained from Hamilton's failure and the team not telling Hamilton the others weren't pitting in MOnaco so was gifted another 17 points there as well.

This is why I don't like him, he's whiny, boring, never funny and simply isn't competitive with Hamilton.

Looking at up to Spa last year, Hamilton had 3 DNFs to Rosberg's 1 though he also lost 7 extra points in Canada. Hamilton had two big failures in qualifying one causing a really heavy impact/crash for him. Rosberg had also cheated at Monaco and hit him off at Spa.... this year Rosberg got gifted points at Monaco and has had two failures to Hamilton's 1. Last year was 'bad luck' this is one extra dnf, offset somewhat by the gifted points at Monaco. People talking about bad luck for Rosberg are nuts and Rosberg's excuses are pretty pathetic, he was miles behind before his first failure.
 
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drunkenmaster said:
This is why I don't like him, he's whiny, boring, never funny and simply isn't competitive with Hamilton.
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TBH, I think Rosberg isn't as clever or as fast as he thinks he is. The fact that Rosberg has managed to get so many second places flatters his performance, because he's rarely managed to beat his team mate in the identical car.
 
Steampunk said:
TBH, I think Rosberg isn't as clever or as fast as he thinks he is. The fact that Rosberg has managed to get so many second places flatters his performance, because he's rarely managed to beat his team mate in the identical car.
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Except for tracks that severely limit overtaking opportunities, Spain, Brazil, Monaco, etc, he hasn't beaten Hamilton on track really. Hamilton has made up some HUGE gaps from behind Rosberg to catch up then pass him. Monza a bad start put him what, fourth, he passed two cars then caught the gap that had built up to Rosberg at a frankly embarrassing rate.

Same at Canada, same anywhere else, if there is a 15 second gap between them Hamilton will close it and most often pass him.

Hell at Brazil last year Hamilton made one small mistake with a spin and then gained what 7-8 seconds back like nothing. It was just passing him at a track that isn't helpful for it. The actual pace Hamilton can produce lap after lap is on a different level to what Rosberg can.
 
Joe! said:
Rosberg had 3 DNFs last year.
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He had 2 dnfs and 2 further car issues in Canada and Abu Dhabi... neither of which I said he didn't. After Spa(which is what I said) he'd had one DNF and one issue in Canada(which dropped him from 1st to 2nd). The biggest difference at either stage of either season was a 5 to lets call it 1.5 big problematic failures to Rosberg's advantage.

This year the current difference is Rosberg has had one extra dnf though gained 17 points on Hamilton in Monaco, so I'd call it 2 to 1.5 this year.
 
It was Lauda I think they asked if Kimi gets a penalty he said he hopes not, you don't want to win like that. I think that means both in terms of not winning it but having it taken away from someone else, but also the delay somewhat destroys the feeling of the situation.
 
drunkenmaster said:
Without similar failures for Hamilton last year he would never have at any stage led the championship last year, which he conveniently forgets. Likewise without his cheating at Monaco and hitting Hamilton at Spa he wouldn't have been in the fight near the end.

he's not in the title fight this year because he's too slow and he's had one, ONE extra failures than Hamilton currently but is miles behind. He gained from Hamilton's failure and the team not telling Hamilton the others weren't pitting in MOnaco so was gifted another 17 points there as well.

This is why I don't like him, he's whiny, boring, never funny and simply isn't competitive with Hamilton.
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Well said and I agree with all of that.

He's in possibly one of the worst positions an F1 driver can be - in a car which is the clear class of the field and which every other driver would kill to have under them yet finding himself clearly outclassed by his team-mate.

You can see the psychology of it. It starts with optimism that you're just as good as the other guy, if not better, and stand every chance. Then, after you're outclassed in almost every race and are only still in the running due to luck, the denial kicks in and you conveniently forget your good fortune in an effort to convince yourself that you're still competitive. Of course, when things don't go your way, then the luck suddenly becomes a huge factor again and is the only thing preventing you from fighting for the title.
 
drunkenmaster said:
This year the current difference is Rosberg has had one extra dnf though gained 17 points on Hamilton in Monaco, so I'd call it 2 to 1.5 this year.
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And, as I said before, his attitude in Monaco stunk. When luck goes his way it's all "yeah that's racing" yet, when it goes against him it's "all so unfair".
 
drunkenmaster said:
It was Lauda I think they asked if Kimi gets a penalty he said he hopes not, you don't want to win like that. I think that means both in terms of not winning it but having it taken away from someone else, but also the delay somewhat destroys the feeling of the situation.
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Bit of a bummer for Mercedes but hopefully it'll be a Hamilton-Rosberg 1-2 in the US and they can celebrate both titles together (when Rosberg's finished crying in a corner obviously).
 
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