Russian Grand Prix 2015, Sochi - Race 15/19

I need to record the BBC F1 when it's on more often... cool features that they do like Jenson's rally cross etc.

Recorded the Sky coverage and these days I end up whizzing it on when Herbert, Hill and Lazers are standing their talking.

Your mistake is recording all of it. Sky split their coverage up into a couple of build up programs before the race, which you can then just not record :).

Brundles Grid Walk through to the Podium is as much F1 coverages as I usually watch.
 
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The point being both drivers(kimi\Hulk) could 100% see the car in front but chose to go for the move .

Think of safety. Bottas\Massa was on the blind side, Kimi\Hulk was not. Easy really.
 
Who's fault are you saying this was?


Here we go again.

I'm not saying anything. The FIA stewards said it for me.
Oh and me and DM are still waiting for your come back and the fine RB will get if they leave before 2020.
After you did go and **** me off. So put up or shut up.
 
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So your saying its Kimi's fault.

Which raises the question of why your arguing with leaskovski, who is also saying its Kimi's fault?

Feel free to try and fire abuse at me, but your the one who walked in here and started arguing, and then went off at me when I asked a simple question that could have been answered simply and politely.

"Here we go again" indeed... Its wrong to even ask for clarification in here now!
 
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So your saying its Kimi's fault.


As said. I'm agreeing with the FIA. How many times must one repeat themselves?

Which raises the question of why your arguing with leaskovski, who is also saying its Kimi's fault?

I'm not arguing. I'm stating facts backed by a FIA.

Feel free to try and fire abuse at me, but your the one who walked in here and started arguing, and then went off at me when I asked a simple question that could have been answered simply and politely.

It was you calling members names again(nothing new) but failed to come back on what both me and DM proved.

"Here we go again" indeed... Its wrong to even ask for clarification in here now!

You do remember what you post ...don't you. But I see you're playing the victim. Oh dear.

But I'll will wait for you to dismiss the facts I put.
 
I'll wait for you to post some first.

Ok lets look at your name calling in just one thread.

I love how deuse keeps spouting about how RBR will have to pay Bernie millions to get out of their contract, whereas one of the main points of the contract is defining how much money Bernie pays RBR!

(Not actually Bernie, its FOM, but you get the idea)


Its a completely rubbish missinterpreted statement that deuse keeps spouting as 'fact' (fancy that :rolleyes:).


Now the facts.

"The bi-lateral agreements signed in 2012 by the top teams with F1 Management ties them into the sport until 2020. It is on the basis of these bi-lateral agreements that those team receive the so-called CCB payments, in addition to their entitlements under the F1 prize money fund. Ferrari gets just under $100m a year as a CCB payment and Red Bull receives $75m a year."

"These teams also received sign-on payments totalling $180m at the time of the bi-lateral agreements in 2012 and are “committed to participate in the F1 World Championship until 31 December 2020,” according to official documents"

"As their CCB entitlement is $75m a year, one would expect at the minimum that the severance payment due to F1 Management and CVC would be at least $350m."

http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2015/...red-bull-is-committed-to-f1-to-december-2020/

I see by repost Skeeter is getting upset.............AGAIN

That doesn't matter in the slightest, what a contract is for and what the punishments for breaking it aren't in any way related. Just because the contract pays them yearly for their involvement in F1 doesn't mean the clauses are the same, as in money from Bernie to RBR. Breaking contracts has repercussions.

IN effect Bernie promised to give them say 50mil a year if and only if they stay till 2020. If they stop in 2016.... then RBR have already been paid for multiple years(4 iirc) based on the intention for them to be around in 2020 and Bernie/FIA/FOM/whoever the hell it is, make deals with tracks around the world based on who is in the sport. If RBR aren't in it and there are 2-4 cars less then the places holding GP's aren't getting what they paid for.

It's been stated, believably, that RBR would be liable for several hundred million in clauses. At the very least I would expect if RBR don't carry out the terms of the contract they would owe Bernie back what they've been paid for the contract and I would be further surprised if there weren't huge financial disincentives to add on top of that.

Wait for your come back.


While you're in talkative mood deuse, any chance of answering me back in this thread? Any kind of admission that you were talking rubbish will be fine by me ;):p

I have already answered you. But if you need attention dial 116 123 (UK :)

Off out for a 32oz steak done rare hmmmmmmm :)
 
So... your convinced that RBR are going to turn up next year, and every following year for the next 5 years, even if they have no engines and push the cars, because the supposed penalty they might have to pay might be about what they spend to currently race for 1 season...

Sounds like a massive blocker... what ever will they do... :rolleyes:. If RBR want to walk, they will walk. In the same way you can't force a manufacturer to sell a team engines, you can't force a team who have no engines to race.

And nice complete avoidance of answering JRS yet again, with the trade mark random change of subject at the end to try and take attention away from it.
 
I have already answered you.

We-e-e-ell.....you didn't, did you? That was post #475 in the Singapore GP thread, and you didn't post again in said thread. It would be a neat trick to answer that query without posting. Almost as neat a trick as saying that the lap record was broken in EVERY MotoGP and Moto2 and Moto3 race at EVERY track that they go to in EVERY year.

Your words, not mine:

Unlike MotoGp were they break the lap record in the race at every track every year.

should have said Moto2 moto3 as well

No bending, no mis-quoting, I already gave examples in that thread that disproved what you were saying. Your refusal to admit that you were at best exaggerating/at worst talking utter rubbish is now fascinating me almost as much as groen attempting to explain how all of space travel is a lie.

How the hell do you remember how to breathe in and out?
 
Ha! I love that he throws the head protection away but is smart enough to realise its a penalty to not reattach the steering wheel :p.
 
So... your convinced that RBR are going to turn up next year, and every following year for the next 5 years, even if they have no engines and push the cars, because the supposed penalty they might have to pay might be about what they spend to currently race for 1 season...

Sounds like a massive blocker... what ever will they do... :rolleyes:. If RBR want to walk, they will walk. In the same way you can't force a manufacturer to sell a team engines, you can't force a team who have no engines to race.

And nice complete avoidance of answering JRS yet again, with the trade mark random change of subject at the end to try and take attention away from it.


So after calling members here names and showing you the proof you have nothing. Thought so. Please stop all this childish name calling.
 
These discussions are incredibly frustrating to read with deuse dancing around doing his absolute best to avoid ever answering a straight question.

I mean, that last response to JRS - he's hung drawn and quartered the point you made but still you're talking nonsense and won't just admit to having been wrong.
 
These discussions are incredibly frustrating to read with deuse dancing around doing his absolute best to avoid ever answering a straight question.

I mean, that last response to JRS - he's hung drawn and quartered the point you made but still you're talking nonsense and won't just admit to having been wrong.

you actually read them? :)
 
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