Russian SU-24 - Shot Down by Turkey

Welcome to be proved wrong but I'm fairly sure the rebels in that area are not ISIS. Despite what Moscow seems to say. The Americans haven't deliberately armed ISIS like they have these chaps.

yeah right.
america have been air dropping pallets of weapons all over the place in disputed areas for months - it is pretty stupid of them to think none of them will be picked up by isis.
Just recently isis were seen with US made TOW missiles.
 
There won't be any direct armed conflict between either Russia or Turkey.

But passive aggression is on the table for sure from both sides.

How long until all this escalates and Turkey prevents (or heavily taxes) Russian ships through the Bosphorus?
 
Firstly, Russia won't nuke Turkey. Secondly, even if they did I doubt the NATO participants would do dick; this isn't the cold war. It would be the League of Nations all over again.

because Greece and Italy would want the fallout from nuking turkey.

the missiles would fly and Russia would also take some hits until they and the usa switch it off
 
Turkey do it to Greece all the time. Over a 1000 violations of airspace last year. So no of course it's an ott reaction they know Russia are targeting isis and other extremists.

Turkey aren't helping defeat Isis If anything they are helping.

The daily violation report (26/11) has as follows

* F-16's entered the Athens FIR north of lesbos and exited east of Kos. They were 8 in number, 2 were armed. All were recognized according to ΝΑΤΟ procedures and engaged. No dogfights occured.

The funny thing is that these occur 7 months per year, during the holiday season it is agreed to stop so as there isnt any accident with a tourist airliner...doesnt make any sense to me these turkos

a small example of the comedy over aegean https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hLsWKrEAhM
 
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I watched the interview from Moscow live on RT as Putin tore in about Turkey. He is claiming they have video evidence and observe masses of oil entering the country day and night with no sight of burning or disposal..... He is claiming Turkey are lying about the involvement they have with oil leaving Syria.

He was openly saying he is wanting and thinks it is best to join a coallition LED by the US. Despite things of the past, during the involvement in Syria I have actually thought more highly of the way Russia has conducted itself than the American idiots and see the reluctance they show to Russia to be pretty childish.... NATO and the US reaction over the Russian plane being shot down is another example of this that is continuing. The reluctance to share intelligence with Russia who were willing to share theirs being another.... Pathetic, but now Russia and France are onboard this may change things dramatically? I say good on this coallition forming, both of these nations share a tragic thing in common which seems to have brought them together.

At this point in time, I have more faith in Putin and Russia than I do in Obama and anyone else to do the job. Hollande said in the interview "the UK will be joining us", to which I was pretty annoyed seeing as that is most defnitely not even decided yet! Dave is going to have a hard time selling his nonsense to everyone, as you are seeing with Corbyn and the SNP as examples not willing to back him. It says it all when the country they are trying to force feed hate on the public for are getting their **** together and making the others look like idiots.
 
I watched the interview from Moscow live on RT as Putin tore in about Turkey. He is claiming they have video evidence and observe masses of oil entering the country day and night with no sight of burning or disposal..... He is claiming Turkey are lying about the involvement they have with oil leaving Syria.

He was openly saying he is wanting and thinks it is best to join a coallition LED by the US. Despite things of the past, during the involvement in Syria I have actually thought more highly of the way Russia has conducted itself than the American idiots and see the reluctance they show to Russia to be pretty childish.... NATO and the US reaction over the Russian plane being shot down is another example of this that is continuing. The reluctance to share intelligence with Russia who were willing to share theirs being another.... Pathetic, but now Russia and France are onboard this may change things dramatically? I say good on this coallition forming, both of these nations share a tragic thing in common which seems to have brought them together.

At this point in time, I have more faith in Putin and Russia than I do in Obama and anyone else to do the job. Hollande said in the interview "the UK will be joining us", to which I was pretty annoyed seeing as that is most defnitely not even decided yet! Dave is going to have a hard time selling his nonsense to everyone, as you are seeing with Corbyn and the SNP as examples not willing to back him. It says it all when the country they are trying to force feed hate on the public for are getting their **** together and making the others look like idiots.

You think highly of Russia after they got involved in Syria, because? They drop 10 bombs on non-IS rebels for every bomb that targets IS, is that the reason? And you have more faith in a ruthless KGB member who routinely uses murder and political imprisonment to further his goals than a democratically elected leader who was teaching law at the age of 30.
I doubt that your ramblings make sense to you, let alone anyone else.
 
Don't know if I can have faith in their democratically elected leader, when he's so willing to cause a massive incident like this, despite his country being just as bad at respecting the airspace of other countries.
 
You think highly of Russia after they got involved in Syria, because? They drop 10 bombs on non-IS rebels for every bomb that targets IS, is that the reason? And you have more faith in a ruthless KGB member who routinely uses murder and political imprisonment to further his goals than a democratically elected leader who was teaching law at the age of 30.
I doubt that your ramblings make sense to you, let alone anyone else.

Why do you feel the need to throw lightly veiled and petty insults about when somebody has a different outlook than you?
 
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