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RX 590 performance

FoxEye said:
As expected, not going to set the world alight. Somewhere between 10 and 15% faster than a 580. And in some cases only just edging out a 1060.

/yawn
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But also as expect, the gap gets much larger in the recent games thanks to Nvidia shunning older cards (or gimping).

I wouldn't pay more than £250 for one though, or it takes it to close to Vega56. Which you can sometimes find for £300.
 
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Amd should be fined for the resources wasted on this stagnated junk. If it was 7nm pipe cleaner then fair enough. But it's not.

Oh well you amd devoted can look forward to gtx1080/1070 3 year old performance at £300-400, when navi turns up.
 
willhub said:
Surely you can buy an RX480, overclock it, and magic you've got an RX590?
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Nope. There's still going to be a significant 300mhz core difference and likely 100mhz on memory. And if you game with it at 4k like I do then this is the difference between stable 30 or not for the highest end titles maxed, or 60 medium.
 
If this is mid to high two hundreds price wise, that is really bad.

Over the last few months, there have been deals on 1070's in the low three hundreds (in fact one was here for a 1070 with Destiny 2 for £329.99). the same goes for Vega 56 deals.

Needs to be around £200 or very low two hundreds for it to make any impact in my opinion. That would be a good move by AMD as it would make the 1060 look expensive.

It will be very annoying if they just try to shoe horn it into another price point. Especially as as it is still just basically the same arch as released over 2 years ago.
 
subbytna said:
590 with the 3 games you get is a good upgrade for anyone on a 480. Sell the 480 and the 3 games and you get a faster card, new warranty for basically zero cost.
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How does that make sense? If it was that easy, why wouldn't everyone just buy the 590 and similarly sell the games :confused:.
 
The games alone are worth around 100 quid. The 480 you could sell for about £130 on the OCUK MM. If the 590 comes in at £250 then for £20 you get a new card

You could sell the 480 on the flea bay for more and then it would be almost break even for a faster new card.
 
subbytna said:
The games alone are worth around 100 quid. The 480 you could sell for about £130 on the OCUK MM. If the 590 comes in at £250 then for £20 you get a new card

You could sell the 480 on the flea bay for more and then it would be almost break even for a faster new card.
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Yes, but then why would anyone buy the used 480 for that price if that were the case? Surely people would just buy the 590 and sell the games, meaning it cost them the same as a used 480.
 
Jono8 said:
Yes, but then why would anyone buy the used 480 if that were the case? Surely people would just buy the 590 and sell the games, meaning it cost them the same as a used 480.
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There will always be someone to buy older tech that hasn't a clue.....always.

We here on the forums are fairly clued up. There will always be someone on FB markets or the like, that hasn't a clue and will be preyed upon.
 
Jono8 said:
How does that make sense? If it was that easy, why wouldn't everyone just buy the 590 and similarly sell the games :confused:.
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It's a hassle. The logic is sound though. In my neck of the woods a new 580 is 1300 shekels, while used 480s go for about 800. A new game usually launches to cost around 270-300 shekles. If the 590 launches at a price of 1500 shekels, then if you count the sold 480 as +800, that puts it at 700 shekels. If you planned to buy the games it comes with (in my case DMC4 & Div2) then that puts it at a grand total of 100 shekels, which I can get back from selling Resident Evil most likely. For reference the next card higher up than a 580 is a 1070ti for 2000 shekels, and only on a deal.

If we're talking about selling the games though, then obviously they're not going to go for full retail. Good chance for £30 each on Div2 & DMC4, don't know about RE2. This is based on what Odyssey was selling for from the previous bundle.

Mr G said:
Also assuming the games can be sold on is another matter, you couldn't with Assassin's Creed so I doubt you will with The Division 2.
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You 100% could with AC, it was just a bit more involved than a steam code.
 
subbytna said:
There will always be someone to buy older tech that hasn't a clue.....always.

We here on the forums are fairly clued up. There will always be someone on FB markets or the like, that hasn't a clue and will be preyed upon.
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Well true. But for it to work, it is just relying on people's stupidity/ignorance :p.
 
I think for a mid-market card then the performance is fine, and for those new to PC gaming it makes a lot of sense, especially with the bundled games. Yes if you already own a 290X/390X/RX/480/RX580 then you this isn't an upgrade, but instead of whinging about it buy a GTX 1070 Ti or a Vega 56, as you are not going to see any faster cards in this price segment any time soon.

No doubt Nvidia will do the £329-349 GTX 2060, and will obviously be the replacement for the GTX 1070, and be slower than the GTX 1070, but faster than the GTX 1060, and they will launch the GTX 2050Ti at the £249 price point to compete, which will be a GTX 1060 +15%, thus completing the move up in brackets of the price for those card tiers. So the RX 590 will be stuck in the middle or on par, but with the games + freesync making it much more appealing.
 
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