RX VEGA AIB Cards Information Needed?

[Brazo]

Nothing wrong with Vega64 here. Cost £449, overclocks to 1800/1100 and outperforms plenty of 1080s in benchmarks and games. Gaming at 100fps+ @1440p it's hardly a travesty for me personally. But keep on bashing AMD like it's the ginger step child so you don't look uncool to your fellow forum buddies.

That's not very nice to gingers

As for Vega 64 well yes it beats the 1080 in some benchmarks but overall it's lagging even a blower 1080. It got panned in the reviews and rightly so. Too little too late was the overall conclusion from many tech reviewers.

Whilst some may think it's a bargain at £449 you got an AMD subsidised card. No more of them! Does it surprise me that there won't be any AIB cards? Not one bit! It's the equivalent of a straight to video movie.

 

[LoadsaMoney]

It's a sad situation for AMD and those of us who waited for Vega. AMD's saving grace has been Ryzen, I ended up with a 1600x so I've bought something from them at least, I might end up buying a G-sync monitor at some point and once that happens RTG's dead to me.

Yeah its very sad, the new pricings just crazy, they've really lost the plot, Vega has just been a shambles, the whole cheaper because of FreeSync they were banging on about for months, has just gone out of the window, as the cash you'ld be saving by buying the cheaper Nvidia cards, would go towards a g-sync, i said in another thread somewhere, that they are now just Nvidia in reverse, Nvidia are cheaper cards, dearer monitors, AMD are dearer cards, cheaper monitors, could probably price up a Nvidia card with a g-sync, for around the same price as an AMD with a Free.

EDIT:

580s now getting smashed on price, 1060 6GB just gone on sale for £219!

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/t...l-with-5yr-warranty-only-218-99-inc.18795692/

 

[nashathedog]

As of right now, Vega 64 isn't £449, that's the travesty. At the moment it's an absolute wreck. Have you ever seen a launch with this little amount of partners? I haven't.
It's not bashing to state a fact, that at the moment AMD doesn't have a competitive card due to pricing.

As it stands I'd probably jump on a £449 Vega 64, despite personally still feeling it's overpriced.

Exactly, I would too, I'd like nothing more than a decently priced Vega card to go in my Ryzen PC to use with my Freesync monitor but it simply isn't a good product at current pricing and it looks like it won't be coming down any time soon.

Ryzen was a good product minus the bugs and problems at launch. They were competitive and very good for the price. but it hasn't taken intel long to readjust their lineup and now intel are price and performance competitive again. The difference with Vega is it's a turd and an expensive one to manufacture that they can't even compete by lowering prices, so all it does it artificially hold mid range gcards at their current prices. Only diehard amd fans will buy vega, whilst people like me refuse to spend the money on it or GP104 are left in frustration.

I only finished my Ryzen PC this weekend and so far it's doing great, I've the 3200 mhz 8 pack memory with a 1600x which I'll hopefully replace with a Ryzen 7 refresh next year. I know there was issues at launch but they're to be expected with any new tech launch. I was interested in an 8700K but the lack of stock pushed me to get on with it.

Yeah its very sad, the new pricings just crazy, they've really lost the plot, Vega has just been a shambles, the whole cheaper because of FreeSync they were banging on about for months, has just gone out of the window, as the cash you'ld be saving by buying the cheaper Nvidia cards, would go towards a g-sync, i said in another thread somewhere, that they are now just Nvidia in reverse, Nvidia are cheaper cards, dearer monitors, AMD are dearer cards, cheaper monitors, could probably price up a Nvidia card with a g-sync, for around the same price as an AMD with a Free.

EDIT:

580s now getting smashed on price, 1060 6GB just gone on sale for £219!

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/t...l-with-5yr-warranty-only-218-99-inc.18795692/

I'm still hoping to get a decently priced Vega as my current 1080 is too big for my M-atx case so for the moment the m-atx PC is in my old case until I replace the MSI 1080 Armor with something that's not as high, A Tri-x would have been ideal, I imagine companies such as Sapphire, HIS and Powercolor are feeling the pinch from having no high-end money coming in yet.

 

[Davedree]

I only finished my Ryzen PC this weekend and so far it's doing great, I've the 3200 mhz 8 pack memory with a 1600x which I'll hopefully replace with a Ryzen 7 refresh next year. I know there was issues at launch but they're to be expected with any new tech launch. I was interested in an 8700K but the lack of stock pushed me to get on with it.



I'm still hoping to get a decently priced Vega as my current 1080 is too big for my M-atx case so for the moment the m-atx PC is in my old case until I replace the MSI 1080 Armor with something that's not as high, A Tri-x would have been ideal, I imagine companies such as Sapphire, HIS and Powercolor are feeling the pinch from having no high-end money coming in yet.

Ryzen is still a very good product, and certainly the r5 1600/x in my opinion is the CPU to buy.
Enjoy it, wish I bought one before I quit my job

 

[TonyTurbo78]

Then forget to add the cost of your block/water cooling setup, + very few numbers that were priced rx56 389, rx64 £449.
Those prices were good but not now. In your opinion you got a well priced card but don't forget the finer details.

already had the water goodies as the custom loop was already there from previous build. Cost me £119 extra for block and backplate but that would have been the same for any card I purchased. Yes the prices are a bloody joke now and i'll admit at the that price today you have to be mental to buy. But that's why I said for me at £449 and in my PC, it's a bloody brilliant card. It's making mincemeat out of all but a few badly optimised games at 1440p. I've been nothing but happy with it.

That's not very nice to gingers

It's ok, I'm a fellow clan member, and I'm Autum Serese not ginger

 

[lloydcars18]

Wow a lot of Replies have around 500 pounds saved up for Either a Asus or Gigabyte Model but hoping they will come in at closer to 450.

@Gibbo Can you please let me know when i can Pre-order one please?

 

[melmac]

I’m not gibbo so cannot really comment exactly how they will price it

Edit: see below for pricing

I think you are missing my point There are already cards out there from Nvidia that are faster and cheaper than Vega cards. If the 1070ti does actually get released, how is it going to affect prices more than the Nvidia cards that are already out there? Like if AMD can't see that pricing their cards more than the 1080 is bad, how will a less powerful cheaper card make them reduce prices?

 

[Davedree]

already had the water goodies as the custom loop was already there from previous build. Cost me £119 extra for block and backplate but that would have been the same for any card I purchased. Yes the prices are a bloody joke now and i'll admit at the that price today you have to be mental to buy. But that's why I said for me at £449 and in my PC, it's a bloody brilliant card. It's making mincemeat out of all but a few badly optimised games at 1440p. I've been nothing but happy with it.

Hope you enjoy it, you have a good clocker and for the money you paid for it, you have done well. Everyone's circumstances and requirements are different of which I umderstand, but I don't think the price for vega or Gp104 is acceptable.

 

[Aneskimo]

I think you are missing my point There are already cards out there from Nvidia that are faster and cheaper than Vega cards. If the 1070ti does actually get released, how is it going to affect prices more than the Nvidia cards that are already out there? Like if AMD can't see that pricing their cards more than the 1080 is bad, how will a less powerful cheaper card make them reduce prices?

What I’m trying to say (in not a good way) is a new card slamming into that price range will shake things up. Gibbo said that Amd are not supporting Vega sales now correct me if I’m wrong but a company not supporting two new cards is not good business sense? The 1070ti may just slap them into looking at there pricing and lower it due to the cards lower performance?

 

[Martini1991]

What I’m trying to say (in not a good way) is a new card slamming into that price range will shake things up. Gibbo said that Amd are not supporting Vega sales now correct me if I’m wrong but a company not supporting two new cards is not good business sense? The 1070ti may just slap them into looking at there pricing and lower it due to the cards lower performance?

But AMD already have lower performing cards at those price point.
The 1070 has no rival at its price point, in fact it's close to some 580's. The 56 is priced at 1080 levels and is completely inferior.

Nvidia would do more damage supporting adaptive sync.

 

[Aneskimo]

But AMD already have lower performing cards at those price point.
The 1070 has no rival at its price point, in fact it's close to some 580's. The 56 is priced at 1080 levels and is completely inferior.

Nvidia would do more damage supporting adaptive sync.

So if what Gibbo said about them not supporting sales are AMD just going to leave the 56 and 64 out high and dry after spending a lot of money developing and manufacturing these cards?

To me it makes no buisness sense so I’m just trying to work it out. They should at least drop the prices if they not selling just to shift some units otherwise it’s dead stock

 

[jaffveyda]

So if what Gibbo said about them not supporting sales are AMD just going to leave the 56 and 64 out has go and dry after spending a lot of money developing and manufacturing these cards?

To me it makes no buisness sense so I’m just trying to work it out. They should at least drop the prices if they not selling just to shift some units otherwise it’s dead stock

Well if the drop prices they will lose money on every single card, but if the limit supply the still might sell at MSRP price. It looks like they will drip feed supply and not bother boosting the sales.

 

[Aneskimo]

Well if the drop prices they will lose money on every single card, but if the limit supply the still might sell at MSRP price. It looks like they will drip feed supply and not bother boosting the sales.

Ryzen sales must have boosted the coffers

 

[ubersonic]

Nothing wrong with Vega64 here. Cost £449, overclocks to 1800/1100 and outperforms plenty of 1080s in benchmarks and games. Gaming at 100fps+ @1440p it's hardly a travesty for me personally. But keep on bashing AMD like it's the ginger step child so you don't look uncool to your fellow forum buddies.

Well said

If only it was possible to find cards at RRP at the moment there would be a lot less whining that's for sure XD

Ryzen sales must have boosted the coffers

It's quite a turnaround to have the CPU division propping up the GPU division again, after six years of the opposite lol.

 

[Aneskimo]

It's quite a turnaround to have the CPU division propping up the GPU division again, after six years of the opposite lol.

Hopefully they can get the balance of both sides right, the industry needs a healthy AMD that’s for sure

 

[Geck0]

Sticking my 56 under water cost me 45 minutes and 2 beers. I just recycled the NZXT X41 and G10 from the R9 290 and sold the bare 290 on to someone who will appreciate it (7970 upgrade for him with his legacy aftermarket air cooler).

Yeah the current prices are BS but they are for ALL graphics cards right now. More than a few of you doing the bitching are also mining with them so stop wanting your cake and eating it too.

 

[Martini1991]

Sticking my 56 under water cost me 45 minutes and 2 beers. I just recycled the NZXT X41 and G10 from the R9 290 and sold the bare 290 on to someone who will appreciate it (7970 upgrade for him with his legacy aftermarket air cooler).

Yeah the current prices are BS but they are for ALL graphics cards right now. More than a few of you doing the bitching are also mining with them so stop wanting your cake and eating it too.

The vega 56 and 64 isn't priced like it is because of mining, it's priced that way because AMD want it priced that way. Hence why they're so easy to buy.

Vegas pricing problems are exclusive to itself.

 

[Geck0]

I don't disagree for the main part however prices of graphics cards have been inflated for ages. HBM and an interposer cost a lot more than a traditional card with GDDR and that's an unfortunate reality.

Ultimately I paid a fair price and at that price the cards were in hot demand. AMD will have to cop a lower margin to compete I guess. My point isn't invalid though as all cards are price inflated due to demand on all fronts. If people stopped paying it would change but that isn't likely to happen. The camel has entered the tent.

 

[Martini1991]

I don't disagree for the main part however prices of graphics cards have been inflated for ages. HBM and an interposer cost a lot more than a traditional card with GDDR and that's an unfortunate reality.

Ultimately I paid a fair price and at that price the cards were in hot demand. AMD will have to cop a lower margin to compete I guess. My point isn't invalid though as all cards are price inflated due to demand on all fronts. If people stopped paying it would change but that isn't likely to happen. The camel has entered the tent.

Vega 56 is already confirmed to be selling slow, yet no change.
1070 and 1080 price is cheaper and arguably better options

 

[JediFragger]

Vega 56 is already confirmed to be selling slow, yet no change.

Yup, I'd bet my house (not really) that they're losing money on every Vega card sold...