Pmsl at the prices at a competitor, £683 for the 64 air cooled, and £867 for the AIO!
Didn’t believe you until I checked, flipping mental
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RX VEGA AIB Cards Information Needed?
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Didn’t believe you until I checked, flipping mental
People state this thing about Nvidia's business practices but are running Intel CPU's. I find this ironic, but it is a fee world and all that after all
Good point.
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Well Ocuk has just dropped price on those, £500 for Vega 64 & £428 for 56. Still very expensive.Didn’t believe you until I checked, flipping mental
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Well, looks like no AiB's this month then...
From what I can gather, its not really happening or if anything happens this year probably high price due to hardly no stock. As such the remainder of this year shall pretty much be reference product only.
However this is a pretty good deal:
PowerColor Radeon RX VEGA 56 8GB HBM2 PCI-Express Graphics Card - Red Pack @ £428.99 inc VAT https://www.overclockers.co.uk/powe...express-graphics-card-red-pack-gx-18y-pc.html
RED PACK, AXRX VEGA 56 8GBHBM2-3DH, Core Clock: 1156MHz, Boost Clock: 1471MHz, Memory: 8192MB 800MHz HBM2, Stream Processors: 3584, DirectX 12 Support, Vulkan Support, GCN, 2 Year Warranty,
Only £428.99 inc VAT.
ORDER NOW
Not quite the price they were at launch, but it does include the two games.
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I don't know how you can call that a good deal when they were £380 at launch and the only game worthwhile there is wolfenstein, prey is old hat now. Not to mention, it is a "reference" model/blower.....
£350 is what you would call a good deal, although even then, that's pushing it but unfortunately that is just the gpu market for you these days.
Frustrating to hear about the AIB models too, guess I'll just make do with my 290 until next year again or unless there is an exceptionally good deal on a 1080ti on black friday...... No current GPU is worth its asking price, well maybe 1060/580 or lesser models but they aren't much good when you already have that sort of performance.
I don't know how you can call that a good deal when they were £380 at launch and the only game worthwhile there is wolfenstein, prey is old hat now. Not to mention, it is a "reference" model/blower.....
£350 is what you would call a good deal, although even then, that's pushing it but unfortunately that is just the gpu market for you these days.
Frustrating to hear about the AIB models too, guess I'll just make do with my 290 until next year again or unless there is an exceptionally good deal on a 1080ti on black friday...... No current GPU is worth its asking price, well maybe 1060/580 or lesser models but they aren't much good when you already have that sort of performance.
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Crazy innit,
I just bought a 4gb 470 Red devil of the MM as I'm going to sell the my 1080 Armor and fit the PC into the M-atx case that the Armor card's too big for. Then I'll play less demanding titles until the AIB Vega's appear and if they're too much I'm not sure what I'll do yet.
On the tiny chance it helps AMD understand their market more, I'm one of the people who typically buys a new GPU every year, but won't ever touch a reference cooler. It seems like not much will happen with AIB's this generation, but they really need to improve their partnerships to ensure their next launch has offerings that more people would consider. The big question for them is how many people feel like me vs how many are happy with reference?
Ditto, looks like i'll be skipping a generation for the 1st time in a while. ( I dont include 580's over my current Fury )
I don't buy new graphics cards all that often these days, but like you I have no interest in reference cards.
Within reason I don't really care about temperature or power draw, but I'm not going to buy a loud graphics card, or dismantle a reference card to fit a quieter cooler.
The last ATI/AMD graphics card I bought was an X1900XTX (I was given a HD2900XT which I passed on to a friend) and I'd like to give AMD another go. I'd even pay a bit more than the equivalent Nvidia offering. But I'm not putting up with the noise of a reference card.
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It isn't worth for them to produce more cards if they are losing money on every single GPU. Looks like no one want's to touch Vega Poo-Poo
Given that most of the models on ocuk have been 10+ in stock and countless other places with tons of stock ever since the prices went up, I imagine that us who care for a fair price and AIB models are far greater than those who are happy with reference as well as being happy to pay over the odds for vega.
If the vega GPUs aren't selling, it is only a matter of time until the prices reduce, even if that means AMD having to take a loss, which imo, at this point, they would be better of doing just to try and claw back some market share as at this point, more and more PC gamer enthusiasts are switching to nvidia due to:
- no AIB models
- ridiculous prices
- vega just being a disappointment in a number of ways, be that for power efficiency, performance compared to nvidia's 1+ year old GPUs or whatever
And for those that don't want to spend £400+ for any GPU but don't want some mid/low end card that isn't capable of high/max settings @ a constant 60+ FPS, they just end up abandoning PC and going console, which I suppose, in some ways, is a win for AMD anyway as another console sale there.....
And then those people who do go with nvidia are also probably locking themselves into the nvidia ecosystem by going out and buying a gsync monitor, which means AMD won't be an option for them until 2+ years later, possibly even longer thus less interest/potential buyers for navi etc. unless they are happy to sell their monitor and buy another monitor, which is unlikely as most people keep their monitors for at least 3/4+ years.....
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Can get an overclocked custom 1070 for £360.
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I'd argue that most Vega buyers have either been miners or people who are just as 'locked-into' Freesync.
The only benefits of having Vega atm, price and performance is certainly with nvidia
Exactly, for me a noisier card would outweigh any frame-rate improvement.
I know some people are saying that AMD can't force AIB partners to make cards at a loss, and while that's true, if they really don't see a way forward, then AMD need to introduce an alternative reference cooler (non-blower style). I know that would potentially alienate the AIB partners, but it can't be worse than the current position.
I'm with you. Would never take a reference card. AIB with a decent cooler or nothing for me.
They already catered for this they just introduce the aio water cards instead as it saves the development of a heatsink and cooler shroud.
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Id forget about the Strix as well, as you know its not coming when the 1070 Ti one will be out before it.
Be custom Volta cards out before the Vega'
Be custom Volta cards out before the Vega'
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I don't agree. That is catering to the extreme end and adding a significant price premium to boot. Maybe I'm being too fussy, but I wouldn't ever buy a reference water-cooled version either. I just want a simple air-cooled version that works quietly and efficiently. I understand that this would be stepping on the toes of their AIB partners, but that's my point, they needed to figure out sooner that their partners weren't making one anyway so then they could step in and offer their own.