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Ryzen "2" ?

It's looking like my recent instability that came back after I thought I had got to the bottom of my ram issues may (and I need to spend more time with PC) be caused by enabling PBO in the bios on Friday.

The issue I was getting was freezing and even one spontaneous reboot but only when I pause a game for an extended period of time.

A few crashes here and there during game play though.

I turned it off and left a game running paused for about 10 mins and the PC was fine so fingers crossed it fixes that problem.

Maybe this PBO is still a beta thing on x370 boards?

PBO stress the mboard more.
Its why we see the x470 being better designed to handle the XF2 and PBO boosts.
You may need to tweak a bit to make things working stable on a x370.
 
So my boost is hitting 4.35GHz (according to CPU-Z) on a per-core basis, but if I change BCLK to 101, it just locks at 3.7 with no boost... Any ideas, anyone?

You need to set other things if you do it that way.

Check this out, (though I would not follow these settings personally as it results in a lot more VCore). However the below settings will boost to nearly 4.5! At least they did for me.

I used 101 bclk, offset -0.8(if I recall correctly) and PE3

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Should be on the normal Windows Balanced plan now, the AMD plan is out of date and the changes that were required to the normal balanced plan were added to the Windows 10 fall update last year.

Are you sure? Because the chipset drivers where update on 4/19/2018.

I assumed the Ryzen power plan is keep uptodate.
 
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PBO more or less increases your chip's TDP so it can reach higher frequencies in certain scenarios, usually multi-threaded ones. You don't need it on, if you want higher all core clocks just overclock your chip, you should be able to reach 4.1~4.2Ghz on Zen+.
It's possible that PBO is not configured properly by AMD/ASUS and you're getting stability issues with it on, quite a few people have reported similar issues on other forums that the chips aren't stable at "stock" with PBO enabled.

At least it's not just me then.

The chip seems to boost under load to 4Ghz anyway so probably don't need it on.

I'm not sure I'm seeing much of a benefit anyway from turning it on.

If I run Prime 95 the cores all boost to 4GHz. I don't think I see much of a difference with PBO on.
 
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So I got all my bits together saturday night excited like a little boy at christmas when they are about to open their new presents. Got my shiny new mobo, cpu and ram that weights a ton (didnt know memory can be this heavy!). Took my decade old rig, cleaned it out and put in my new bits. After an hour or so I was finally ready to press the power button. New bios, can use your mouse! last bios I had was ike an old dos menu where only the keyboard worked :p
Anyway set everything to default and put memory on 3200. restarted, had my breath held thinking if windows will load up instantly since my old i7 took like 10 seconds or so to get in.
After a few seconds of thinking about it I got a BSOD! tried again, and a few more times thinking maybe its just needs to figure itself out...
30 mins later after trying various different settings on the mobo I thought I would google it, found the issue straight away.. Windows 7 isnt supported no longer lol...

Next hour spent trying to see if any tips online on how to fix the issue without having to reinstall. Around 2am I finally gave in and purchased a Windows 10 key of some dodgy site, but key came through not long after PC was up and running again on Windows 10 (hate the damn thing).
Next challenge was crappy Windows 10 not recognising my SSD with Win 7 on it. In the end had to format my SSD.

Sunday I spent installing all my stuff back on, and resitting the CPU cooler as I couldnt find my thermal paste during the night and ended up just placing the cooler back on with the thermal paste left over from before. Didnt have any cleaning solution so just used a kitchen towel and cloth to wipe as much of the old paste I could.

By end of the night everything was in place. Next step is to get a mild OC on it.
I managed to test Fortnight last night, with all the settings on epic, after a few rounds my temps were reading as around 56c on the max. Generally when not doing anything to demanding it is jumping around 30-35. Are these temps ok? (using a 240mm Seidon AIO) am not sure if I messed up by not properly removing the old thermal paste.

Without doing anything all cores were running at around 4ghz plus (Windows power setting was set to performance mode, by default?), max being around 4.2something. Then I tried the DOCP setting 1, this seemed to have lowered the overall speed a bit. Am still new to all this, need to get back upto speed with OC settings, last time I really looked into this was like 10 years ago :O

I tried one of the ASUS tool that does the auto OC, after it did its thing and calculated what my environment could handle. It did an 8% OC.

p.s. as you can see from my essay its a slow day in the office :p
 
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Ordered binned 2700x last night so soon i will see what can i get out of Zen+ platform. I'm going for All core OC with it :)
 
Ordered binned 2700x last night so soon i will see what can i get out of Zen+ platform. I'm going for All core OC with it :)

Isn't the best binned one like 4.2GHz @ 1.425V? Which seems super average to me for a crazy markup...
 
Id pay exta 100 quid for 100mhz. Sick of **** silicone.

Dont forget My system is under constant 100% load 24/7 and benching all the time when I'm home with volts that most are afraid to use daily. Not mentioning running them 24/7


You guys dont Stress systems hard enough most of those 4.2 overclock here would not pass my stress tests :D

Like 170-180Watts cou package draw constant for hours and hours.
 
Temps are fine, not sure I would be using any auto overclocking though.

I'd say that motherboard vendors overclocking features are stone dead compared to enabling AMD's settings.

So get hands on to get the maximum OC by hand or let AMD handle the boosting for you.

Anyone think of any logic in letting the motherboard OC?
 
Id pay exta 100 quid for 100mhz. Sick of **** silicone.

Dont forget My system is under constant 100% load 24/7 and benching all the time when I'm home with volts that most are afraid to use daily. Not mentioning running them 24/7

£100 for a <2.5% performance uplift... on volts that will most likely degrade the CPU... money to burn :p

Each to their own, i'll stick to letting XFR2 do its thing :D
 
£100 for a <2.5% performance uplift... on volts that will most likely degrade the CPU... money to burn :p
so ?? Next year I will buy another cpu.

And stop with this DEGRADE CPU ********. Was runnign 1.425 OVER YEAR ZERO DEGRADATION

Maybe if someone runs crap AIO cooling hahaha.

People got them silly 240/360 AIO and consuider it good cooling ??

Try my rad space :]

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is everyone getting high cpu temps in windows is this a bug like with the first gen Ryzen CPU's?

If you are using HWiNFO64 your actual CPU temp is the Tdie temp, which will always be 10c below the Tctl temp (because of the X cpu's 10c offset).
These chips do run hot, at the moment mine is at an all core clock of 4.2Ghz using 1.375v and the temp goes to 68c full load running Prime95 with AVX. Cooling is a 360 AIO, i would imagine full on custom loops will be better just as air will be worse.
 
If you are using HWiNFO64 your actual CPU temp is the Tdie temp, which will always be 10c below the Tctl temp (because of the X cpu's 10c offset).
These chips do run hot, at the moment mine is at an all core clock of 4.2Ghz using 1.375v and the temp goes to 68c full load running Prime95 with AVX. Cooling is a 360 AIO, i would imagine full on custom loops will be better just as air will be worse.

Didn't they stop doing that?
 
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