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Ryzen "2" ?

TrixP10 said:
So I assume that it was a decent (not so costly) upgrade.
Would you say that overall you have achived 10%~15% performance uplift as advertised.
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I read quite a few reviews that showed a very good ~20% increase in performance from stock 1700X to 2700X. At 4K gaming I have a Freesync monitor with minimum range of 33Hz, the 2700X does help keep the minimums above that range. VR runs at a lower resolution than 4K and a CPU bottleneck is will be much more noticeable and the 2700X is definitely and improvement there.
 
I'm in a debate with myself of changing from my 4790K to new Ryzen... Mainly gaming but occasional streaming. Hard to compare. Does anyone think the value of my 4790K will drop off soon? As I can more or less sell it for the same price as a 2600X
 
kundi said:
It's his system. I edited in Premiere with my 1800x for a year without issues. No crashes related to CPU and no dropped frame issues. I now have a 2700x and it's just as stable in Premiere as my 1800x. I feel like many of these content creators on Youtube have limited understanding of the hardware/software they use to create their content.
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Look at the way he worded the video and the description, the way he worded is as if the fault lays with the Ryzen CPU, followed by an advert for Intel CPU's and and Intel features like Quick Sync. he's shilling for Intel.

It has a high down vote rate, i added to that.
 
CiscoH said:
I'm in a debate with myself of changing from my 4790K to new Ryzen... Mainly gaming but occasional streaming. Hard to compare. Does anyone think the value of my 4790K will drop off soon? As I can more or less sell it for the same price as a 2600X
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It would be better to sell your older processor as soon as possible. The more months you wait, the more its value will drop. Don't wait for it.
 
kundi said:
It's his system. I edited in Premiere with my 1800x for a year without issues. No crashes related to CPU and no dropped frame issues. I now have a 2700x and it's just as stable in Premiere as my 1800x. I feel like many of these content creators on Youtube have limited understanding of the hardware/software they use to create their content.
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How does the new system generally feel compared to the 1800x in general use? I read somewhere it feels more snappy? I use a TR1950X and it's great but I do notice it can be a bit slow at some things. Can't remember exact timings now but opening MSVisual Studio for example takes a lot longer on the TR1950X (stock) vs a 6700K (4.5Ghz) that i have, nearly twice as long if I remember correctly when first used (is faster the next time). Not knocking it, as it's a power house at multi-core work but improved more snappy responses in less core intensive work from the next TR would be great.
 
DarrenM343 said:
How does the new system generally feel compared to the 1800x in general use? I read somewhere it feels more snappy? I use a TR1950X and it's great but I do notice it can be a bit slow at some things. Can't remember exact timings now but opening MSVisual Studio for example takes a lot longer on the TR1950X (stock) vs a 6700K (4.5Ghz) that i have, nearly twice as long if I remember correctly when first used (is faster the next time). Not knocking it, as it's a power house at multi-core work but improved more snappy responses in less core intensive work from the next TR would be great.
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That doesn't sound quite right for the opening MS visual studio taking longer - if anything I find mine quicker than an i7 (6th gen so shouldn't be to different?) - have you got the proper AMD power plan installed?
 
Yeah something not right, i use VS2015 and its defiantly quicker on the Ryzen 1600 than it was on the 4690K.
 
BongoHunter said:
That doesn't sound quite right for the opening MS visual studio taking longer - if anything I find mine quicker than an i7 (6th gen so shouldn't be to different?) - have you got the proper AMD power plan installed?
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Will see if I can try it again later. I did recently switch back to the AMD Ryzen Balanced plan after using Performance for a while. I found performance was actually making SSD IOP performance slower but is fine on the Balanced plan. Not sure my i7 PC still has VS installed but may quickly install it to compare again.
I'm using VS 2017 Ulti
 
Should be on the normal Windows Balanced plan now, the AMD plan is out of date and the changes that were required to the normal balanced plan were added to the Windows 10 fall update last year.
 
DarrenM343 said:
Will see if I can try it again later. I did recently switch back to the AMD Ryzen Balanced plan after using Performance for a while. I found performance was actually making SSD IOP performance slower but is fine on the Balanced plan. Not sure my i7 PC still has VS installed but may quickly install it to compare again.
I'm using VS 2017 Ulti
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Just tested opening one of my game projects on my 4770k system and 1950x system - 4770k opens it in 28 seconds, 1950x in 20 seconds. Did a compile as well - 3min30s on 4770k, 1min17s on 1950x.
 
amigafan2003 said:
Just tested opening one of my game projects on my 4770k system and 1950x system - 4770k opens it in 28 seconds, 1950x in 20 seconds. Did a compile as well - 3min30s on 4770k, 1min17s on 1950x.
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Sounds similar to my experience - compiling an old game project on my 4820K was about the same speed as a Ryzen CPU with twice the cores (it will load up as many cores as are available - but seems to do better with hyper-threading than AMD's SMT) so needed like a 16 core 32 thread variant to halve the compile time - you might find disabling SMT actually results in faster compile times again.

(This was with both CPUs at 4GHz)

EDIT: To be clear a lot of this is due to dealing with legacy compile tools rather than the nature of the CPUs themselves.
 
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I assume that's gaming load and not 100% all core, if so that sounds about the same as I'm getting.
 
My bios shows the correct temperatures but Nzxt is showing temperatures of upto 80 degrees anyone else had these issues

I'm using the X470 gaming 7 motherboard
 
It's looking like my recent instability that came back after I thought I had got to the bottom of my ram issues may (and I need to spend more time with PC) be caused by enabling PBO in the bios on Friday.

The issue I was getting was freezing and even one spontaneous reboot but only when I pause a game for an extended period of time.

A few crashes here and there during game play though.

I turned it off and left a game running paused for about 10 mins and the PC was fine so fingers crossed it fixes that problem.

Maybe this PBO is still a beta thing on x370 boards?
 
PBO more or less increases your chip's TDP so it can reach higher frequencies in certain scenarios, usually multi-threaded ones. You don't need it on, if you want higher all core clocks just overclock your chip, you should be able to reach 4.1~4.2Ghz on Zen+.
It's possible that PBO is not configured properly by AMD/ASUS and you're getting stability issues with it on, quite a few people have reported similar issues on other forums that the chips aren't stable at "stock" with PBO enabled.
 
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