Ryzen "2" ?

opethdisciple · 18 May 2018 at 10:42

Sorry to ask this again. But it's confusing me.

Precision Boost Override. Should I enable it on my x370 / 2700x?

Also the options are Auto / enable / disable and manual.

I imagine on auto it's actually enabled?

PaulCa · 18 May 2018 at 11:00

Scougar said:
To be fair here... the 370z is not a competitive purchase anymore, it has reached luxury level pricing (Especially the NISMO models). So, due to price, prob not the best AMD comparison here lol.

The GT86 is probably more fun. The 370z is a 9/10th car. The GT86 is an 11/10th car. It's so much fun you won't really care that a Focus ST might challenge you in a straight line or even in the corners on stock tyres... mostly because you will be sliding around like a hooligan

I love mine (my second one 2017 pro). The 2017 electronics "Track" mode actually encourages and helps you powerslide subtly during rush hour.

Zeed · 18 May 2018 at 11:33

@Gibbo so when is 3466 kit landing at OCUK ?? Tempted to pick it up and have a look how it does at 1.45 volts

got any test kits for 'testing'

Think Ill email Teamgroup if they have a spare kit for Review would be awesome to have a play with it see how it is

chroniclard · 18 May 2018 at 11:43

I wonder what they do to make it better for Ryzen and if the current b-die higher rated stuff is any different/would work just as well?

Zeed · 18 May 2018 at 12:33

chroniclard said:
I wonder what they do to make it better for Ryzen and if the current b-die higher rated stuff is any different/would work just as well?

PCB design for starters ?? You think that Memory kit contains only memory chips ??
Resistance of ciurcut capacitors ect. Loads of factors in ram kits.

opethdisciple would still runn those at 3133 tho

opethdisciple · 18 May 2018 at 12:36

Isn't it something to do with the jedec?

kitfit1 · 18 May 2018 at 12:36

opethdisciple said:
Sorry to ask this again. But it's confusing me.

Precision Boost Override. Should I enable it on my x370 / 2700x?

Also the options are Auto / enable / disable and manual.

I imagine on auto it's actually enabled?

When PBO is set to Auto the CPU itself sets voltage, TDP and other mobo parameters.
When it's set to Enabled, the voltage, TDP and other parameters are set by the mobo's ability to hold the settings. This results in a much higher VID being set for each core and higher TDP than would be the case on Auto. It also means much higher temps.
If you were going just for an all core clock, enabled would be the best choice. If though you want to let the CPU set it's own maximum and minimum with low volts and temps then Auto would be the best choice.

HeX · 18 May 2018 at 12:55

chroniclard said:
I wonder what they do to make it better for Ryzen and if the current b-die higher rated stuff is any different/would work just as well?

More than likely it'll be timings set to values that most Ryzen's should be able to cope with, rather than timings optimised for Intel.

opethdisciple · 18 May 2018 at 12:57

kitfit1 said:
When PBO is set to Auto the CPU itself sets voltage, TDP and other mobo parameters.
When it's set to Enabled, the voltage, TDP and other parameters are set by the mobo's ability to hold the settings. This results in a much higher VID being set for each core and higher TDP than would be the case on Auto. It also means much higher temps.
If you were going just for an all core clock, enabled would be the best choice. If though you want to let the CPU set it's own maximum and minimum with low volts and temps then Auto would be the best choice.

Thanks

sandys · 18 May 2018 at 14:33

HeX said:
More than likely it'll be timings set to values that most Ryzen's should be able to cope with, rather than timings optimised for Intel.

This

prjwebb · 18 May 2018 at 15:08

chroniclard said:
Tweaked a bit. Given how close its getting AMD are going to take the gaming crown with Ryzen 2 if Intel dont bring something new to the table.

I dunno Vega was pretty disappointing. I'm assuming you're talking about GPU's in this gpu limited situation anyway.
The fact AMD still loses when the intel cpu is completely gpu bottlenecked isn't a great look, especially when it get's a free win in physics with 2 extra cores and 4 extra threads and only just scrapes that victory.

chroniclard · 18 May 2018 at 15:20

prjwebb said:
I dunno Vega was pretty disappointing. I'm assuming you're talking about GPU's in this gpu limited situation anyway.
The fact AMD still loses when the intel cpu is completely gpu bottlenecked isn't a great look, especially when it get's a free win in physics with 2 extra cores and 4 extra threads and only just scrapes that victory.

CPU wise any further improvements from AMD are going to put it top? (Unless Intel improve as well, which is likely)

Random Guy Esq. · 18 May 2018 at 15:21

Sorry guys... I'm sure this has been asked loads of times already (but it's a huuuge thread). Which gets more gaming FPS out of Ryzen 2X00 series CPUs; faster RAM (more MHz), or tighter timings?

kitfit1 · 18 May 2018 at 15:26

Random Guy Esq. said:
Sorry guys... I'm sure this has been asked loads of times already (but it's a huuuge thread). Which gets more gaming FPS out of Ryzen 2X00 series CPUs; faster RAM (more MHz), or tighter timings?

All 3

HeX · 18 May 2018 at 15:29

Random Guy Esq. said:
Sorry guys... I'm sure this has been asked loads of times already (but it's a huuuge thread). Which gets more gaming FPS out of Ryzen 2X00 series CPUs; faster RAM (more MHz), or tighter timings?

You ideally want to get it as higher frequency as you can, then worry about timings.

On the whole if you can get 3200 C14 you're good; 3333 C14, 3466 C15, 3600 C16 will be faster, but progressively harder to achieve.

Scougar · 18 May 2018 at 15:36

Still.. that dark pro is very nice

Zeed · 18 May 2018 at 16:35

Problem is not only Memory speed but that its still tied to infinity fabric

so what I can get my kit 3600cl15 pass 2000% when system is unstable due to IF

TBH best option is 3466 lowest timings Yours ram kit can do s it does not cripple cpu too much.

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kitfit1 · 18 May 2018 at 16:42

Zeed said:
Problem is not only Memory speed but that its still tied to infinity fabric so what I can get my kit 3600cl15 pass 2000% when system is unstable due to IF

TBH best option is 3466 lowest timings Yours ram kit can do s it does not cripple cpu too much.

+1
Personally i like 3466 at 14-14-14. Dead easy to get, but more importantly easy to get and a rig that 100% stable 24/7. Win win

opethdisciple · 18 May 2018 at 17:09

"Dead easy to get" :rolleyes:

Not in my experience.

kitfit1 · 18 May 2018 at 17:16

opethdisciple said:
"Dead easy to get"

Not in my experience.

Yep. Easy with B-die. Easy with both a 1700 and a 2700x. Then your experience is not typical.
As has been said a few times opethdisciple, your problem is almost certainly your mobo and nothing to do with ram.