Ryzen "2" ?

Ad_Augendae · 16 May 2018 at 16:41

opethdisciple said:
I watched the video.

Thing is others have the same board and ram and even 1000 series CPU's and get more than DOCP out of this ram.

I have 2 Identical X370 K7 1800X's (because best silicon apparenly!) that I have been building for a while with 8 Pack cl14 3200mhz Ram, tbh I can't get any more than 3200mhz stable, and as someone already said when asked (Chroniclard maybe?) on this thread your only talking 10 points in cinebench between a few hundred mhz... I can also confirm I have seen these figures on these two series 1000 chips. I can even tell you that one of the systems is a bit more picky about the ram than the other to the point I may have to downclock that slightly when it's being used full time. The other system has been running about 2 weeks now fault free 3.9 all core with 32x memory.

With that chip I would buy another board, surely you can't be that unlucky with it being 2 chips?

Boomstick777 · 16 May 2018 at 17:24

Just here to lead people to the thread in my sig xD

pete910 · 16 May 2018 at 17:56

Zeed said:
People buy ****** hynix based ddrs and expect to have 3000+ on ryzen with no problems.

Just to point out, I've built 3 systems with hynix based and all hit the stated 3200. Two with LPX and one with HyperX .

Zeed · 16 May 2018 at 18:27

pete910 said:
Just to point out, I've built 3 systems with hynix based and all hit the stated 3200. Two with LPX and one with HyperX .

When did Ypu nuild those assume pass may/june 2017

opethdisciple said:
It's just a bit disappointing to buy 8pack ram and still have to under clock it to get it stable.

I was lead to believe this ram was a doddle to overclock on Ryzen.

It does on tachi or c6h

Zeed · 16 May 2018 at 18:29

Vakas said:
I am using 3200 Ram would I notice any difference if I had like 4000mhz?

Ye you will notice few dozens of pounds missing from yours pocket.

Zeed · 16 May 2018 at 18:30

PaulCa said:
You have an X370 motherboard. My understanding is that the X370 only supports 3200Mhz. If you want 3400Mhz you need to go up to X470.

Wrong we have people runnig 3600cl14 stable on c6h motherboards

pete910 · 16 May 2018 at 18:46

Zeed said:
When did Ypu nuild those assume pass may/june 2017

It does on tachi or c6h

One on release (Mine) that only worked after the F3 bios update at 3200 to be fair , Others where May/June IIRC . 2 b350's and 1 370 all giga boards.

kitfit1 · 16 May 2018 at 19:12

Zeed said:
Wrong we have people runnig 3600cl14 stable on c6h motherboards

Mmmmmmmmm, have read the same Zeed. Thing is though, like i have posted here before, show me the proof ? I've not seen a single 1000% run on say Ramtest yet and defo havn't see any runs on Memtest at 3600cl14 on a CH6 or even a CH7.

Zeed · 16 May 2018 at 19:30

kitfit1 said:
Mmmmmmmmm, have read the same Zeed. Thing is though, like i have posted here before, show me the proof ? I've not seen a single 1000% run on say Ramtest yet and defo havn't see any runs on Memtest at 3600cl14 on a CH6 or even a CH7.

Hard to get screenshots after OCN forum got 'UPGRADED'

This one is better 1400% and full memory load

Some people at OCN had EPIC luck on zen 1 motherboards and memory combos.
I got setting that passes over 2000%@3600cl15 but... Infinity fabric is unstable with high cpu overclock on top heh.
Sadly my ram kit just CANT DO CL14 pass 3400 tested up to 1.5 volts always errors :/

As I see overclockign on ryzen. First gen get 3200cl14 then see how much You can push CPU before infinity fabric gives up. On zen+ get 3466cl14/cl15 then see how far You can get CPU.

Ad_Augendae · 16 May 2018 at 19:39

And here is a big fail I just did....

kitfit1 · 16 May 2018 at 19:45

We are talking about Ryzen 2000's here Zeed. That is 16-16-16 though................not 14-14-14.

Zeed · 16 May 2018 at 19:58

kitfit1 said:
We are talking about Ryzen 2000's here Zeed. That is 16-16-16 though................not 14-14-14.

Ye cant find screenshots they got all messed up with forums upgade. Thing is some of those runs ware with 1.2 soc and 1.6 ddr

if i had this kit
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/team...4500mhz-dual-channel-kit-black-my-09a-tg.html

I could pass 3600cl14 over 200% no problem with cpu overclocked

opethdisciple · 16 May 2018 at 19:59

This new kit of ram is exhibiting different behaviours to my old kit.

Both good and bad.

My old kit would easily boot in to windows at 3466MHz. This one when I first set 3333MHz failed to boot and dumped me at a screen saying I was in BIOS recovery mode and needed the cap file. :eek:

Meh.

Restart eventually in to BIOS set 1.4v and eventually got in to windows.

I'm not expecting much but you never know.

Other people where suggesting possible memory hole at 3200MHz so I tried 3266MHz. After a bit of gaming it gave me a blue screen.

I want to see if the ram will be OK at 3333MHz at 1.4v.

I've done all of this before with the old set. But who knows.

Zeed · 16 May 2018 at 20:08

opethdisciple said:
This new kit of ram is exhibiting different behaviours to my old kit.

Both good and bad.

My old kit would easily boot in to windows at 3466MHz. This one when I first set 3333MHz failed to boot and dumped me at a screen saying I was in BIOS recovery mode and needed the cap file.

Meh.

Restart eventually in to BIOS set 1.4v and eventually got in to windows.

I'm not expecting much but you never know.

Other people where suggesting possible memory hole at 3200MHz so I tried 3266MHz. After a bit of gaming it gave me a blue screen.

I want to see if the ram will be OK at 3333MHz at 1.4v.

I've done all of this before with the old set. But who knows.

You still think its the ram kit ?? Seriously ?? If I had a spare kit would send You my tested kit and still would crash i bet.

Thinking back Selling Teamgroup dark pro 3333cl14 stable with super tight settins tested for 20 quid extra over new deffo made new owner super happy. Was win for me and win for him

gavinh87 · 16 May 2018 at 20:22

opethdisciple said:
This new kit of ram is exhibiting different behaviours to my old kit.

Both good and bad.

My old kit would easily boot in to windows at 3466MHz. This one when I first set 3333MHz failed to boot and dumped me at a screen saying I was in BIOS recovery mode and needed the cap file.

Meh.

Restart eventually in to BIOS set 1.4v and eventually got in to windows.

I'm not expecting much but you never know.

Other people where suggesting possible memory hole at 3200MHz so I tried 3266MHz. After a bit of gaming it gave me a blue screen.

I want to see if the ram will be OK at 3333MHz at 1.4v.

I've done all of this before with the old set. But who knows.

You need a better mobo or settle for 3200 pal.

opethdisciple · 16 May 2018 at 20:25

gavinh87 said:
You need a better mobo or settle for 3200 pal.

It's 3200MHz I'm having an issue with. Seems it'll do up to 3133MHz.

As for better mobo, I can afford to just go all out and get a CH7 for example. But if I can get 3133MHz out of the current setup is it worth sending £250 just for a few more hundred MHz?

My brain knows it isn't.

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But the point is other people with my board and ram have it running over 3200MHz.

gavinh87 · 16 May 2018 at 22:07

opethdisciple said:
It's 3200MHz I'm having an issue with. Seems it'll do up to 3133MHz.

As for better mobo, I can afford to just go all out and get a CH7 for example. But if I can get 3133MHz out of the current setup is it worth sending £250 just for a few more hundred MHz?

My brain knows it isn't.

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But the point is other people with my board and ram have it running over 3200MHz.

It isn't worth it no.
For what it's worth I had a ch6 and x2 1700's and 16gb if 4266mhz ram. One could do 3466cl14 the other could barely do 2933.
It's a lottery.

Mercutio · 17 May 2018 at 02:13

eddiew said:
I'm amazed that this works... older Windowses would have thrown up on your shoes for trying it O_o

Has anyone ever done performance comparisons of systems after swapping the motherboard without reinstalling? I want to go from B350 to X470 and it'd be much easier if I could get away without a full wipe...

I tried it.
Everything looked ok but had major issues with certain games dying horrible random deaths. Checked it with latencymon and it was absolutely terrible.
2 rebuilds+bios upgrade later, everything is spot on. First rebuild I made the mistake of using drivers from CD, worth going the usual route (ofc) and get the latest version off the AMD site, same as you would Intel when rebuilding.

eddiew · 17 May 2018 at 08:21

Mercutio said:
I tried it.
Everything looked ok but had major issues with certain games dying horrible random deaths. Checked it with latencymon and it was absolutely terrible.
2 rebuilds+bios upgrade later, everything is spot on. First rebuild I made the mistake of using drivers from CD, worth going the usual route (ofc) and get the latest version off the AMD site, same as you would Intel when rebuilding.

Shame, but thank you

opethdisciple · 17 May 2018 at 09:46

Zeed said:
You still think its the ram kit ?? Seriously ?? If I had a spare kit would send You my tested kit and still would crash i bet.

Thinking back Selling Teamgroup dark pro 3333cl14 stable with super tight settins tested for 20 quid extra over new deffo made new owner super happy. Was win for me and win for him

I guess there's a bushiness opportunity there.

Buying new kit, overclocking it, verifying it's stability which the buyer is happy to trust and then selling it on for profit.