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Ryzen "2" ?

TallPaul1878 said:
Unless you are a regular upgrader then the motherboard life span is a non issue. Most people keep their PCs for a couple of years so even the AM4 will be replaced by then.
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Short lifespan sockets have one problem- replacement motherboards become harder to find as time progresses. The reason why I am still on socket 1155,is because SB/IB had a very long lifespan as it was even being used in new build commerical machines even last year and CPUs were still being even made last year.

If not I would have been forced to spend 4 times the money I original spent when my motherboard went kaput out of warranty,as it would mean a new motherboard and a new CPU.

So for me,the long socket lifespan is a plus,primarily since if I do buy a CPU I do keep it for long.

OTH,it does not mean its the most important metric either,but its nice to have it anyway.
 
TallPaul1878 said:
Man I bought an R7 1700 fully knowing that the 8700k was on the way and that in many current games the 7700k was the market leader.

In terms of gaming, which I'm sure most of us are doing with our PCs, Intel is still the smartest choice. Unless you are a regular upgrader then the motherboard life span is a non issue. Most people keep their PCs for a couple of years so even the AM4 will be replaced by then.

I bought AMD because I wanted one, because Coffee Lake wasn't yet available and because I just wanted to try a new thing.
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^ this.
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
TBF,with Ryzen,anything above a Ryzen 5 1600 really shows no advantage for gaming. Having said that even the Core i5 8600K is pretty close to the Core i7 8700K too.
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Yes, for gaming the R5/i5 are by FAR the most sensible option. But, I've been saving for some time and just feel that this time round I want to know I have "the best". might seem bad but will make me happy. Also I do a fair amount of video encoding, and the multi threading will really helps.
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Short lifespan sockets have one problem- replacement motherboards become harder to find as time progresses. The reason why I am still on socket 1155,is because SB/IB had a very long lifespan as it was even being used in new build commerical machines even last year and CPUs were still being even made last year.

If not I would have been forced to spend 4 times the money I original spent when my motherboard went kaput out of warranty,as it would mean a new motherboard and a new CPU.

So for me,the long socket lifespan is a plus,primarily since if I do buy a CPU I do keep it for long.

OTH,it does not mean its the most important metric either,but its nice to have it anyway.
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That's a good point. As I have a Ryzen system myself, should my motherboard go kaboom outside of warranty I will likely be able to find a replacement in a couple of years. I fully intend to upgrade to Ryzen 2 (R7 3700???) if in 2 years if it's possible and the performance uplift is worth it over my 1700.
 
beany_bot said:
Yes, for gaming the R5/i5 are by FAR the most sensible option. But, I've been saving for some time and just feel that this time round I want to know I have "the best". might seem bad but will make me happy. Also I do a fair amount of video encoding, and the multi threading will really helps.
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Yeah,well the only possible release "soon" is Ryzen+ and I would be surprised if it is Q1,and RR is probably not what you want.

TallPaul1878 said:
That's a good point. As I have a Ryzen system myself, should my motherboard go kaboom outside of warranty I will likely be able to find a replacement in a couple of years. I fully intend to upgrade to Ryzen 2 (R7 3700???) if in 2 years if it's possible and the performance uplift is worth it over my 1700.
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Its something that I do want to take into consideration,but the performance of the Core i5 8400 also looks good for some of the games I play too(over Ryzen). I suppose I can always wait a bit longer,LOL.
 
TallPaul1878 said:
Man I bought an R7 1700 fully knowing that the 8700k was on the way and that in many current games the 7700k was the market leader.

In terms of gaming, which I'm sure most of us are doing with our PCs, Intel is still the smartest choice. Unless you are a regular upgrader then the motherboard life span is a non issue. Most people keep their PCs for a couple of years so even the AM4 will be replaced by then.

I bought AMD because I wanted one, because Coffee Lake wasn't yet available and because I just wanted to try a new thing.
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Gaming is for Sony Playstation and Microsoft XBox. Let it go there.

CPUs are not the most important PC ingredient for good gaming experience.
http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/intel-core-i7-8700k-processor-review,21.html
 
4K8KW10 said:
Ryzen 7 1700 wins on every metric except single threaded performance which is not important.
Ryzen 7 1700 is a 65W chip vs a 95W chip.
Ryzen 7 1700 has 16 threads which are way more than only 12 threads. 12 threads will show a bottleneck every often.
Ryzen 7 1700 comes with AM4 motherboards which can be upgraded in the next years with Ryzen 7 2700, 2800X, Ryzen 7 3700, 3800X.
Ryzen 7 1700 comes with unbeatable price that is 100 pounds cheaper than 8700K.
i7-8700K has a chewing gum under the lid.
i7-8700K comes with motherboards which you will throw away once you finish with that particular chip. No upgrade never.

How much more should AMD give you in order to stop supporting the evil and stupid Intel?!
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Ha, I'm using AMD CPU now.
Always good too see the thoughts of others. Personally out of the two though I'd probably still go with 8700K if I was in the market. I thought the 6 cores of the 8700K were actually faster than the 8 of the 1700 even multi-threaded apps? Could be wrong....
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
I wonder if some of you argue more about your NEW toys than actually use them. It could be worse - you might be stuck on some toaster of a CPU.....or even a console!! EEK!!
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Yes, like the topic suggests, everyone is waiting for the new Ryzen.
As for the consoles, there is nothing wrong with them. As devices, they are more efficient than PCs. Tight resources for ultimate gaming experience, 4K, etc...
 
Being on the same 3570k CPU I have to agree with you lokken86.
I think for people who primarily game on their PC's, even 2500k users with a nice OC should wait for the next generation of CPUs.
 
I'd get a console too, but my eyes can sadly see past 30 fps so I can't get the "ultimate gaming experience". :rolleyes:

Consoles are fine for what they are, but let's be honest here, a good PC is going to give you a superior experience.
 
AndreiD said:
I'd get a console too, but my eyes can sadly see past 30 fps so I can't get the "ultimate gaming experience". :rolleyes:

Consoles are fine for what they are, but let's be honest here, a good PC is going to give you a superior experience.
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And access to completely different genres of games that just don't work on consoles
 
Never thought I'd see consoles advocated over PCs on this forum for gaming.

We can play nearly anything we want on a PC, and are much less limited in the selection of things to play, and who they can be played with.
 
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