Soldato
No petition to Nvidia is needed. Only petition to Nvidia users to stop buying. Nvidia will naturally die as a consequence
If AMD can make a decent card at a decent price then maybe they will.
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Ryzen "2" ?
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If AMD can make a decent card at a decent price then maybe they will.
Nah, they won't. The RX 480 was evidence of that.
Caporegime
So,any more news about Ryzen 2 or are we going to start moaning about graphics cards in the CPU forum?? I thought we had a GPU one for that?? 
Soldato
So,any more news about Ryzen 2 or are we going to start moaning about graphics cards in the CPU forum?? I thought we had a GPU one for that??
We've even had consoles brought into this thread!
Caporegime
Soldato
I can appreciate consoles have a place,but I hate controllers!!
PCMR!!
Racing games and football games are where they are needed imo.
Otherwise GTFO lol
This may solve the problem.
High probability that Ryzen 2 with Vega and Ryzen 3 with Navi will drive next-gen PlayStation and Xbox.
Those APUs will have dramatic performance improvement over the Jaguar-based APUs currently being used.
The good thing is that consoles programming environment is closer to the silicon than DX12 for PCs, thus they can extract more performance and make 4K @120Hz gaming entirely possible.
They can't really "extract" more performance than you can on DX12/Vulkan PC, there was a difference when PCs didn't have any low level apis the developers could use.
The only issue right now is that companies simply will just not bother to properly optimize for PC, reason why Nvidia keeps dropping "Game Ready" divers.
The only issue right now is that companies simply will just not bother to properly optimize for PC, reason why Nvidia keeps dropping "Game Ready" divers.
I agree although I think unless you pair the consoles with Freesync monitors or Tv's move to 100Hz they'll be 60Hz/FPS machines.
Caporegime
Luckily I suck at those kind of games....hugs keyboard and mouse.
Soldato
My 2600k would like a rest soon please. Also waiting for the pinnacle train to start moving.
My 2600k would like a rest soon please. Also waiting for the pinnacle train to start moving.
You can move the i7-2600K to a secondary system. If overclocked, its 8-thread resources should be enough for many applications.
If you game I wouldn't really upgrade that i7 2600K yet, nothing really is going to be an upgrade big enough to justify spending lots of money on a new platform, with expensive DDR4 included... maybe apart from an 8700K.
I went i7 2600K -> R7 1700 and for gaming it's more of a side grade if the 2600K was overclocked. If you have workloads that can use the cores, then it's worth it, but if not, stick with the 2600K.
In my opinion, it's best to wait a year or so for Zen 2 and Icelake, DDR4 prices will also be significantly better around that time since China is coming with a vengeance for that market (lots of Chinese DRAM fabs are going to be completed in 2018). SSDs are also going to become significantly cheaper, due to QLC and of course China opening up a lot of NAND fabs too.
Godspeed China
I went i7 2600K -> R7 1700 and for gaming it's more of a side grade if the 2600K was overclocked. If you have workloads that can use the cores, then it's worth it, but if not, stick with the 2600K.
In my opinion, it's best to wait a year or so for Zen 2 and Icelake, DDR4 prices will also be significantly better around that time since China is coming with a vengeance for that market (lots of Chinese DRAM fabs are going to be completed in 2018). SSDs are also going to become significantly cheaper, due to QLC and of course China opening up a lot of NAND fabs too.
Godspeed China
I don't like how games scale or don't scale with more threads. Games should be able to utilise all given resources as efficiently as possible.
About China, I wouldn't wait and hope. They always find reasons for prices gouging
@4K8KW10 That's just how games are nowadays, even with DX12 you still have 1-2 main threads that will be the bottlenecks. Not all software can be properly parallelized, so I don't think that will change for years to come, but time will tell.
And China has a flurry of DRAM and NAND fabs under construction right now, more supply will also lower pricing. Even if Micron/Samsung/Hynix have a pricing cartel, China will most likely sidestep them with their government subsidized DRAM and NAND. China has done this with a lot of commodities already.
And China has a flurry of DRAM and NAND fabs under construction right now, more supply will also lower pricing. Even if Micron/Samsung/Hynix have a pricing cartel, China will most likely sidestep them with their government subsidized DRAM and NAND. China has done this with a lot of commodities already.
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The sooner the better
DDR4 prices will fall when DDR5 arrives and DDR4 takes the place of DDR3.
Meanwhile, in February, we are expecting Ryzen 2 with improved performance.
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It's Ryzen + not Ryzen 2. Ryzen 2 is 7nm where as Ryzen + is the 12nm refresh.