RYZEN 5000 SERIES NOW ONLINE - 5950X, 5900X, 5800X & 5600X COMING NOV 5TH AT 5PM **NO COMPETITORS**

[Joxeon]

order for a 5900x gone in today, did you guys get your position in queue automatically or did you have to go looking for it?

Not sure on queue size but your looking at 7 weeks minimum according to this.

Received an email last night , after I had asked an estimated delivery time . For me it’s going to be 7+ weeks minimum, I have asked for a refund and ended up ordering a bundle product from an other retailer that included a OEM 5900x , no far cry for me ! And I now have a mobo, ram and cooler I need to put on **** . At least I will have it in the next 10-12 days

 

[alec]

It's an extra 10k in profit for OCUK every 100 units they sell.

I think this time Gibbo was quite transparent in explaining the markup. Its marked up by alternative (scalping) suppliers.
And now you have a choise. Order here at +100 and get it in two weeks or order somewhere else at msrp and wait till January

 

[Mesai]

I think it's the principle of the thing though. Feels like it's edging into pure greed to increase the price purely to make a much much bigger profit.
I think most people happily pay for a fair/reasonable profit, and happily deal with companies make such a profit.

If you a company is just looking like they're making huge profits on an item, you'll shop elsewhere.

I dunno, maybe OcUK are setting prices as high as they can in order to stay afloat.

From what I read on the other thread, certain suppliers are hiking prices. Not sure whether OC put anything more than the normal mark-up on top of that, but not entirely their fault.

Yes, price gouging is scummy, but the people who pay the prices are just as bad.

 

[Joxeon]

I think this time Gibbo was quite transparent in explaining the markup. Its marked up by alternative (scalping) suppliers.
And now you have a choise. Order here at +100 and get it in two weeks or order somewhere else at msrp and wait till January

2 weeks is a bit optimistic. Where does it say 2 weeks?.

 

[clv101]

It's an extra 10k in profit for OCUK every 100 units they sell.

I think it's disapointing that all this extra profit is going to the retailer, and not AMD itself. I'd like to see AMD making more money, and doing more R&D than a box shifter making more money.

 

[Sam Lann]

Sorry if this has already been posted....
OcUK have now raised the price of the 5950X to £860!! Wow. £750 announced, then £800, now £860.
That truly is taking the mick.

Yeah this whole farce has put me off OCUK for good i think .

 

[Joxeon]

I think it's disapointing that all this extra profit is going to the retailer, and not AMD itself. I'd like to see AMD making more money, and doing more R&D than a box shifter making more money.

AMD would be making more cash if it wasn't a paper launch and they actually had the stock to fulfil orders.

 

[rare]

AMD would be making more cash if it wasn't a paper launch and they actually had the stock to fulfil orders.

Given OCUK shipped something like 2000 units on launch day I don’t think you can really call it a paper launch..

 

[gsf600y]

From what I read on the other thread, certain suppliers are hiking prices.

Oh right. I assumed OcUK were buying direct from AMD, but if there are middlemen that are doing the price hiking, that's more understandable.

 

[Sam Lann]

I think this time Gibbo was quite transparent in explaining the markup. Its marked up by alternative (scalping) suppliers.
And now you have a choise. Order here at +100 and get it in two weeks or order somewhere else at msrp and wait till January

it is not two weeks mate , 7+ weeks minimum and that was an order from the 7th . if you order now its most definantly jan/feb

 

[Nathan Wood]

Just to quote Gibbo from the other thread the other day, here was part of the update:

5900X – 85pc coming from a non-official distributor and these cost us about £10 more than what we have sold them for. However, we are happy to lose £10 a CPU to get customers their orders ASAP.
5800X – There was 50pc non-official stock available but these were £100 higher than what we sold the stock for and unfortunately we cannot afford to lose £100 per CPU.

Understandable about the 5800X which is why they didn't buy.

 

[Nathan Wood]

Yeah, I ordered on the 7th. I have hopes it'll be here in the new year, but that's based off the assumption that there are no more delays

 

[LtMatt]

Nice video here showing 5600x Vs 5800x Vs 5900x when all are overclocked to 4.7Ghz on all core. Unsurprisngly, the fastest to slowest is 5900x > 5800x > 5600x. But the differences are not huge, ranging from 5-10 fps.

 

[Joxeon]

Given OCUK shipped something like 2000 units on launch day I don’t think you can really call it a paper launch..

Depends how quickly the supply picks up because if people are still struggling to buy even the more common 6 and 8 core chips a month after launch then it was indeed a paper launch.

 

[vapor matt]

Its AMD's issue really, not enough stock for a true launch of the 5000 series. its ok to stand on a stage and say these will be available on the 5th, what they failed to say was these will be available to very FEW on the 5th.
A very bad launch from AMD for people sitting with hardware ready to go having invested in the AMD bubble and now cant get a CPU unless its way over priced and scalped. even etailers scalping from RRP prices.

AMD's problem they launched with a fraction of the stock required, leaving AMD enthusiasts high and dry and stuck in a pre order que.

I blame AMD

 

[jamman]

Exactly. You don't have companies doing that with food in our supermarkets - it stays at list price. Like a previous poster - people are stuck at home with the lockdown ,they're wanting things to play with/toys so they're probably more 'desperate' for new tech and unfortunately these companies continually taking advantage. If a manufacturer makes it and gives out the MSRP then it should stay that way - I understand that companies want to make as much money as possible.............!

I know some people are going to going to disagree ...but 'these companies' already make loads of money -LOADS.

Whilst I understand the frustration (Im trying to finish a build) this sort of comment does amuse me.

Food is a vital commodity, a new CPU or GPU thats a bit faster than the one you already own isn't.

Theres no comparison there, if you just wait a couple of months you will get what you want at the right price. It would be better if they had enough stock at launch, but you wont starve to death because of it

People were blaiming Nvidia at 30 series launch, but its the same everywhere. AMD now having same issues, and literally had a discussion at work just now about getting PS5 for Xmas. Just how it is.

 

[Badwolfe]

I've been budgeting for about £2500 to spend on a new build. I intended to get most of my stuff off here. Watching OC hike prices over these chips and give ****** excuses for doing so when we know the real reason has been purely for greed has brought me to the point where OC will not get a penny of that money.

 

[Bindlestiff]

You queue position will obviously go down as pre orders are fulfilled.

Which is how I expected it to work, but is the exact opposite of what I was told in the last reply. Which means that it hasn't moved, at all, in a week.

 

[Deleted member 66701]

Its AMD's issue really, not enough stock for a true launch of the 5000 series. its ok to stand on a stage and say these will be available on the 5th, what they failed to say was these will be available to very FEW on the 5th.
A very bad launch from AMD for people sitting with hardware ready to go having invested in the AMD bubble and now cant get a CPU unless its way over priced and scalped. even etailers scalping from RRP prices.

AMD's problem they launched with a fraction of the stock required, leaving AMD enthusiasts high and dry and stuck in a pre order que.

I blame AMD

It was the choice between having 500k units sat in a warehouse ready to go or wait a couple of months to have 5 million units to meet demand.

IMHO, I'd have launched with the 500k as well, scarcity actually drives demand, so they'll end up making more money in the long them the way they have done it.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/scarcity-principle.asp#:~:text=According to the scarcity principle,to generate demand for it.

Consumers place a higher value on goods that are scarce than on goods that are abundant. Psychologists note that when a good or service is perceived to be scarce, people want it more. Consider how many times you’ve seen an advertisement stating something like this: limited time offer, limited quantities, while supplies last, liquidation sale, only a few items left in stock, etc.


The feigned scarcity causes a surge in the demand for the commodity. The thought that people want something they cannot have drives them to desire the object even more. In other words, if something is not scarce, then it is not desired or valued that much.


Marketers use the scarcity principle as a sales tactic to drive up demand and sales. The psychology behind the scarcity principle lies on social proof and commitment. Social proof is consistent with the belief that people judge a product as high quality if it is scarce—or if people appear to be buying it. On the principle of commitment, someone who has committed themselves to acquiring something will want it more if they find out they cannot have it.

Don't for one minute think the lack of stock is a "mistake" by AMD (or Nvidia with he 3xxx series cards).

How many people might have order one in a couple of months and then maybe backed out versus people that are pre-ordering now fearing they wont get one if they wait?

 

[vapor matt]

You mean AMD claiming to have a great value high performance CPU available on the 5th but then leave customers high and dry paying much more that RRP price in a que?

A paper launch if ever there was one, 500.000 worldwide is not enough at all.