RYZEN 5000 SERIES NOW ONLINE - 5950X, 5900X, 5800X & 5600X COMING NOV 5TH AT 5PM **NO COMPETITORS**

[Dirk Diggler]

I just noticed that OcUK shop site now has Cloudflare DDoS protection. Definitely a step in the right direction in regards for preparation for Zen3 release.

Hoping you guys have also upped the resources on the web server.

I don't think I'll be going for day 1 purchase, it's always a risk with Ryzen as the bugs get ironed out. I want a drop in upgrade, not a drop in headache

There's too many good games releasing over the next 6 weeks and I want to enjoy them.

 

[Guest2]

I don't think I'll be going for day 1 purchase, it's always a risk with Ryzen as the bugs get ironed out. I want a drop in upgrade, not a drop in headache

There's too many good games releasing over the next 6 weeks and I want to enjoy them.

Why is it always a risk with Ryzen?
How do the bugs get ironed out, motherboard bios updates?
I’ve not had any bug issues in past relating to day 1 purchase Intel CPUs. Are Ryzen known to come with bugs?

 

[clv101]

I was under the impression it was Intel who had suffered more CPU bugs/vulnerabilities in recent years?

 

[gambiting]

Why is it always a risk with Ryzen?
How do the bugs get ironed out, motherboard bios updates?
I’ve not had any bug issues in past relating to day 1 purchase Intel CPUs. Are Ryzen known to come with bugs?

BIOS can include microcode updates for the CPU - that has been the case with Intel "patching" the vulnerabilities found(I say patching - if you can call crippling the CPU performance that).
And yes, I am not aware of any day 1 issues with Ryzen CPUs.


Also, yes, OC now has Cloudfare DDoS protection, but I'm not sure it will do anything - on 3070 launch day just few days ago it just meant you sat on a "cloudfare is loading" screen for minutes

 

[Joeyuk]

Still on the fence about getting a 5600x plus a x570/b550 board to replace my 2700x paired with a ch6.

I’ve got the upgrade it itch after getting a 3080. I could just get a 3700x but the new 5000 do look very good.

 

[Deluxe1]

I’ve got the upgrade it itch after getting a 3080. I could just get a 3700x but the new 5000 do look very good.

My 3700x will be going straight into the members market if I get the 5900x next week on release.

 

[Jay85]

I don't think I'll be going for day 1 purchase, it's always a risk with Ryzen as the bugs get ironed out. I want a drop in upgrade, not a drop in headache

There's too many good games releasing over the next 6 weeks and I want to enjoy them.

"A drop in headache" dying haha!

I noticed on the other thread someone mentioned that most boards will need a bios update to support the new chips as well, im guessing any boards bought now will also require this if its older stock? Abit of a pain especially if you're coming from intel and don't have any other ryzen chip to do it unless the boards support bios flashing without a cpu installed.

 

[haszek]

"A drop in headache" dying haha!

I noticed on the other thread someone mentioned that most boards will need a bios update to support the new chips as well, im guessing any boards bought now will also require this if its older stock? Abit of a pain especially if you're coming from intel and don't have any other ryzen chip to do it unless the boards support bios flashing without a cpu installed.

For motherboard with bios flashback you don't need CPU to update bios. Just usb stick with bios but also older bios already supported new CPUs. Recently they just released updated bios

 

[Dirk Diggler]

Why is it always a risk with Ryzen?
How do the bugs get ironed out, motherboard bios updates?
I’ve not had any bug issues in past relating to day 1 purchase Intel CPUs. Are Ryzen known to come with bugs?

When I dropped the 3700x into my x470-i it couldn't hit it's advertised boost clock, which wasn't a massive deal. The real headache was a bug that meant when the PC was powered down for a longer period it went into a boot loop when powered up again. It wasn't just a case of clearing CMOS and applying a saved OC profile because I couldn't just set the memory to 3600 I had to take it from 2666Mhz up in steps, reboot to make sure it was ok, reboot again into BIOS, go up another step and repeat until i got it to 3600.

The cold boot issue got resolved with a BIOS update but the memory issue still remains. I got to the point where I just accepted it because on a subsequent BIOS update the cold boot issue returned so I reverted back and stuck with it.

I had issues with the 2700x at the start too but I can't remember exactly what. I'm not saying any of this will happen with 5000 series, all I'm saying is it's best to hang back a week or 2 and see what the community report back with.

I'm tempted to pick up the new chip on the 5th in case there are supply issues, but I'll leave it in the box for a wee while just in case.

P.s. the AMD fanboiz hate admitting these issues exist(ed) but the fact is they did. AMD are still my first choice over Intel for lots of reasons, but they aren't perfect either and it's worth taking your time at launch. What I would say is that the platform is definitely maturing now so it's hopefully a sign that their bugs are all but ironed out.

 

[pc-guy]

Also, yes, OC now has Cloudfare DDoS protection, but I'm not sure it will do anything - on 3070 launch day just few days ago it just meant you sat on a "cloudfare is loading" screen for minutes

a lot of the online shops got this now. While visiting OCUK I got blocked from Cloudfare last week. Not entirely sure if it is actually traffic through OCUK during the AMD Radeon presentation or it was some technical glitch at cloudfare. It is extremely annoying.

but I think it is really to restrict traffic so they can sell out CPU & GPU

 

[pc-guy]

When I dropped the 3700x into my x470-i it couldn't hit it's advertised boost clock, which wasn't a massive deal. The real headache was a bug that meant when the PC was powered down for a longer period it went into a boot loop when powered up again. It wasn't just a case of clearing CMOS and applying a saved OC profile because I couldn't just set the memory to 3600 I had to take it from 2666Mhz up in steps, reboot to make sure it was ok, reboot again into BIOS, go up another step and repeat until i got it to 3600.

The cold boot issue got resolved with a BIOS update but the memory issue still remains. I got to the point where I just accepted it because on a subsequent BIOS update the cold boot issue returned so I reverted back and stuck with it.

I had issues with the 2700x at the start too but I can't remember exactly what. I'm not saying any of this will happen with 5000 series, all I'm saying is it's best to hang back a week or 2 and see what the community report back with.

I'm tempted to pick up the new chip on the 5th in case there are supply issues, but I'll leave it in the box for a wee while just in case.

P.s. the AMD fanboiz hate admitting these issues exist(ed) but the fact is they did. AMD are still my first choice over Intel for lots of reasons, but they aren't perfect either and it's worth taking your time at launch. What I would say is that the platform is definitely maturing now so it's hopefully a sign that their bugs are all but ironed out.

lol how many times you gonna blame those cold boot issues and stuff on AMD? Not all boards experienced cold boot issue so it is not an AMD fault otherwise EVERY system would have this problem.

the boost clock was nonsense. It is not an issue. Never stopped any system from working.

all total tosh

I am no AMD fan boy here.

the only real issue is AMD Radeon driver (nvidia got the same issues look at the 3080 crash issues). aMD however took a very very very long time to resolve which isn’t good. But now the drive is there. It is better than before by quite a margin in terms of stability and performance.

People compare Radeon driver to vintage wine. I don’t want my GPU drivers to be a vintage wine that ages. I want it working and ready when I get my GPU, if I want vintage wine I buy vintage wine

 

[pc-guy]

"A drop in headache" dying haha!

I noticed on the other thread someone mentioned that most boards will need a bios update to support the new chips as well, im guessing any boards bought now will also require this if its older stock? Abit of a pain especially if you're coming from intel and don't have any other ryzen chip to do it unless the boards support bios flashing without a cpu installed.

Not as painful as buying a brand new motherboard and build everything from scratch if you go with intel. And not to mention the money you will be outlaying.

a bios update is hardly painful considering the list of thing can go wrong with computers and ACTUAL headaches come with it in terms of hardware & software debugging

bios update is like right at the bottom of being troublesome. If you think bios update is painful maybe you are better off just buying new systems from OEM builder every time you want to update your system. Then that’s totally hassle free barring when things do go wrong then you will be in the phone or online chat for ages and getting no where.

 

[Dirk Diggler]

P.s. the AMD fanboiz hate admitting these issues exist(ed) but the fact is they did.

Cue @pc-guy hitting a multi post mega-rant literally 10 minutes later

 

[pc-guy]

Cue @pc-guy hitting a multi post mega-rant literally 10 minutes later

LOL. Again never a fan boy. I actually prefer intel over the years and nvidia cards (owned like 2 Radeons GPU in over 20 years and that is before Radeon was AMD). Just intel stuff is so garbage right now.

but since I made my point I will stop there.

 

[Jay85]

Not as painful as buying a brand new motherboard and build everything from scratch if you go with intel. And not to mention the money you will be outlaying.

a bios update is hardly painful considering the list of thing can go wrong with computers and ACTUAL headaches come with it in terms of hardware & software debugging

bios update is like right at the bottom of being troublesome. If you think bios update is painful maybe you are better off just buying new systems from OEM builder every time you want to update your system. Then that’s totally hassle free barring when things do go wrong then you will be in the phone or online chat for ages and getting no where.

Nah im alright, never bought a pre built and never will. Just my fair share of bios updates going wrong in the past has left abit of a sour taste that doesn't seem to want to go away. Don't assume someone should go buy prebuilds over one thing and don't be so condescending, no one wants a smart ass on these forums maybe you won't rub people up the wrong way then .

 

[pc-guy]

Nah im alright, never bought a pre built and never will. Just my fair share of bios updates going wrong in the past has left abit of a sour taste that doesn't seem to want to go away. Don't assume someone should go buy prebuilds over one thing and don't be so condescending, no one wants a smart ass on these forums maybe you won't rub people up the wrong way then .

it takes one to get rubbed up the wrong way to get rubbed up the wrong way.

your statement was generic seemed to indicate a bios flash is a PIA. out of the hundreds (if not one more zero) BIOS flash in my life time. I would definitively say the bios flashing process right now fas less PIA than say rebuilding a PC or debugging RAM defaults. or reinstall windows and all the damn softwares and drivers. I used to have to take BIOS chip out of a board and make my way to a friedns PC to reload uncorrupt BIOS and come back etc. NOW that is PIA!

if BIOS do go wrong these days there are plenty boards with backup or BIOS flashback etc (redundancies)

anyway you might be extremely unlucky in your flashing processes...

 

[Dirk Diggler]

...condescending drivel...

We get it; you know everything and we're all licking windows. Now, pretty please, go and troll some other thread.

 

[benjii]

we're all licking windows

I haven't heard that in ages, brings back memories!

What's everyone's plan for release day? I'm going to skip through to the gaming benchmarks in a couple of reviews and see which of the 5800X or 5900X does better, while simultaneously trying to buy one of them.

 

[stooeh]

So do we reckon demand for these CPUs at launch window will be less than the NV graphics cards windows? I'm hesitant to try and order one from here given the site fell over with those last couple of launches...

 

[gambiting]

I haven't heard that in ages, brings back memories!

What's everyone's plan for release day? I'm going to skip through to the gaming benchmarks in a couple of reviews and see which of the 5800X or 5900X does better, while simultaneously trying to buy one of them.

Well, I'm on an i7-4790K, so literally anything will be better, and I do have a budget for 5900X so that's what I'm going for. Rest of the PC already built. On launch day will have every single store page open and trying to get through the checkout on one of them, with OC getting priority. Paying for Saturday delivery, assuming orders ship as normal on Friday.