Where did you get the numbers from?
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Poll: Ryzen 7950X3D, 7900X3D, 7800X3D
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Where did you get the numbers from?
Caporegime
Lack of avalabilty does not necessarily equal less supply, its probably just far more popular than the 7900.
That's exactly where I was going with that question.
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True but I think gibbo described the number of 7950x3ds in the first batch as ‘hardly any’ after ordering 500 whereas everyone has the 7900s but as you say they are less popular at least it appears from what people are saying here.
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7900’s have had a price drop too. Suggests they are certainly not selling as well.
Could be both factors I guess.
I assumed it was a bit of both, yeah. 7950x3d being a bit more popular but also them just not managing to ship many at all. I think the price of it, and the fact that the 7800x3d is right around the corner for gaming means that it's probably not going to be mega popular. It's likely more popular than the 7900x3d which kind of has no niche though.
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Interesting video here about the upgrade to 3D chips.
www.youtube.com
I Upgraded To The 7950X3D And Regret It
► Big thanks to Micro Center for sponsoring today’s video: New Customers Exclusive – Get $25 off your purchase of any AMD and Intel Processor (limit one per...
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Ah, guess the site needs to be updated as it still states end of March for fulfilment. Placed my hopeful order on the 15th.
Interesting video here about the upgrade to 3D chips.
I Upgraded To The 7950X3D And Regret It
► Big thanks to Micro Center for sponsoring today’s video: New Customers Exclusive – Get $25 off your purchase of any AMD and Intel Processor (limit one per...
Think this is just a case of PEBKAC more than anything else - too many independent reviews show the true performance.
It's because he used an AMD GPU. We already know that AMDs RX7000 series were not bottlenecked by non x3d CPUs so they have nothing left to give, you only benefit from the x3d CPUs if you have a high end Nvidia GPU with lots of cpu overhead like an RTX4090 and that's what most reviewers tested with
Wouldn’t that depend more on the resolution?
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Caporegime
Also these people don't test proper CPU limited games. Games such as MS Flight Simulator,Fallout 4 and Factorio show big gains with 3D V-Cache.
See the scores for my Ryzen 7 5700X with an RX5600XT/RX5700XT against another score using a Ryzen 7 5800X3D and an RX5700XT. There is around a 30% to 40% improvement in the framerates.
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Caporegime
Interesting video here about the upgrade to 3D chips.
I Upgraded To The 7950X3D And Regret It
► Big thanks to Micro Center for sponsoring today’s video: New Customers Exclusive – Get $25 off your purchase of any AMD and Intel Processor (limit one per...
I think mainly because the 7950X is fast enough already to run the 7900XTX at full load, even at 1080P, especially given AMD's driver overhead is much lower than AMD's.
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Soldato
Bar for a handful of outliers there's little in it even vs the simulated 7800x3D, 13th gen still better in some games. It all comes down to cherry picking for either Intel or AMD at the end of the day. Probably worth it if you care about those games that take big advantage of the vcache like Flight Sim or Factorio, personally couldn't care less. Haven't tried Flight Sim but it looks like something I'd get bored of within minutes, too bad they don't make Pilotwings anymore though as I actually enjoyed that.
I didn't like all the tech outlets trying to simulate the 7800x3d.
The 7800x3d is going to be X% slower than the simulated 7800x3d results and no one bothered to mention that in their reviews, at least not that I saw.
Its for two reasons: 1) the 7800x3d has slightly lower boost clock and more importantly 2) the 7800x3d has a smaller 3D cache shared across its 8 cores than the 7950x3d does across its 8 cores.
The difference might be quite small 1-5% but it would have been nice just to make that obvious to the viewer.
The 7800x3d is going to be X% slower than the simulated 7800x3d results and no one bothered to mention that in their reviews, at least not that I saw.
Its for two reasons: 1) the 7800x3d has slightly lower boost clock and more importantly 2) the 7800x3d has a smaller 3D cache shared across its 8 cores than the 7950x3d does across its 8 cores.
The difference might be quite small 1-5% but it would have been nice just to make that obvious to the viewer.
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Soldato
What? Link?
Don't think its possible, debauer did a video where he tried to OC and it killed the chip, AMD hard locked the cache CCD to 5.25GHz.i did yesterday some gaming.
somehow my 7950x3d managed to boost way higher than the 5250 on the 3d-cores... how is this possible?
