Poll: Ryzen 7950X3D, 7900X3D, 7800X3D

[Nutty667]

I didn't like all the tech outlets trying to simulate the 7800x3d.

The 7800x3d is going to be X% slower than the simulated 7800x3d results and no one bothered to mention that in their reviews, at least not that I saw.
Its for two reasons: 1) the 7800x3d has slightly lower boost clock and more importantly 2) the 7800x3d has a smaller 3D cache shared across its 8 cores than the 7950x3d does across its 8 cores.

The difference might be quite small 1-5% but it would have been nice just to make that obvious to the viewer.

Incorrect.
The V-cache enabled CCD of the 7950X3D, and the CCD in the 7800X3D both have 64MB of V-cache added on top. Their L2 and L3 is the same.

What the 7950X3D does have, is the normal L3 cache in the 2nd CCD it can access before it has to go to main memory.

 

[BigBANGtheory]

Incorrect.
The V-cache enabled CCD of the 7950X3D, and the CCD in the 7800X3D both have 64MB of V-cache added on top. Their L2 and L3 is the same.

What the 7950X3D does have, is the normal L3 cache in the 2nd CCD it can access before it has to go to main memory.

yes that's what I thought as well

and in terms of boost clock what I read into that is the 'default boost clock' not accounting for PBO and CO as opposed to a hard limit, I could be wrong though I don't have the benefit of MLID industry sauces

 

[huggz123]

Finding myself a little obsessed with refreshing this forum and my email to check for shipping updates

Any word on things being shipped this week @Gibbo ? Much appreciated and apologies as I'm sure you're already bombarded with workload.

 

[malachi]

Think I have an bad 7950x3d....going to be a long wait for an replacement

 

[BigBANGtheory]

at the risk of asking a silly question... Is there anyway at all to avoid the inventible launch day **** show for the 7800X3D like god forbid pre-ordering one or having something, anything other than the website congestion/crash/unavailable thing that happens every bloody time a popular component releases?

 

[Dalandius]

at the risk of asking a silly question... Is there anyway at all to avoid the inventible launch day **** show for the 7800X3D like god forbid pre-ordering one or having something, anything other than the website congestion/crash/unavailable thing that happens every bloody time a popular component releases?

Pretend it is released two week after the original date, I've waited this long for it a couple more weeks is not going to hurt

 

[Hotwired]

Pretend it is released two week after the original date, I've waited this long for it a couple more weeks is not going to hurt

Not to encourage the launch day scrum but if you look around the shelves are bare of the desirable 7950X3D so it probably is a case of getting stuck in or waiting a fair bit longer if you want a 7800X3D unless there's unheard of high stock levels.

 

[humbug]

For Goodness sake Jay get over Asus, they suck. Gigabyte all the way.....

 

[Grim5]

no issues with my x670 asus hero thanks jay

 

[humbug]

no issues with my x670 asus hero thanks jay

Giga-Byte Giga-Byte Giga-Byte........

 

[Iron Man]

at the risk of asking a silly question... Is there anyway at all to avoid the inventible launch day **** show for the 7800X3D like god forbid pre-ordering one or having something, anything other than the website congestion/crash/unavailable thing that happens every bloody time a popular component releases?

Just set aside time in your diary for the release, refresh often, make sure you are logged in and have your credit/debit card ready. The last three product launches (3090, 4090 and 7950x3D) I have took part in here have honestly been terrible with the website crashing and not being able to order.

 

[Grim5]

Giga-Byte Giga-Byte Giga-Byte........

They do make the best entry level AM5 boards; as shown by hardware unboxed the gigabyte boards easily beat all other brands in performance at the entry price point

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[humbug]

They do make the best entry level AM5 boards; as shown by hardware unboxed the gigabyte boards easily beat all other brands in performance at the entry price point

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12+2 Phase Digital VRMs, never gets to 60c
2.5Gb LAN
Intel WiFi 6
USB 3.2 / USB C
AMP-UP Audio
PCIe 4 NVMe
5 On-board temp sensors for case fans
Full Alloy MVMe coolers
USB BIOS Flash

I have 3800MT/s out of the cheapest 3200MT/s 32GB kit i could find, no problem.
CPU tuned to run 4.9Ghz in R23 MT 24/7. 5800X

The PCB is thick, the board is heavy.

Its never put a foot wrong.

£165 full price.

IMO its better than a lot of boards cost over £200.

 

[humbug]

Initially i only got the Gigabyte board stable with DDR 6000....

Of course, all the Asus boards are DDR 5600.

I'm sorry, Asus once were good, but now they just seem to be living off that name, all the problems Jay has had are with Asus boards, he's an Asus fan and uses nothing but, they are just not as good as they used to be, the best boards are Gigabyte.

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[Grim5]

I like that HUB has started doing more comparisons with boards please keep it up - don't just show a cinebench score and VRM temp, show us Ram performance and timing, game performance, windows boot speed and yes please also show us Nvme drive speed - this is especially important for Gen 5 Nvme drives where speed can vary quite a bit between boards based on how the board wired up and the motherboard's Nvme cooling solution

 

[GoogalyMoogaly]

For Goodness sake Jay get over Asus, they suck. Gigabyte all the way.....

I'm not a big fan of Gigabyte boards. Not a fan of their BIOSes or their fan control software.
I've used Asus a lot but do wonder if I should give MSI another go.

 

[BigBANGtheory]

Just set aside time in your diary for the release, refresh often, make sure you are logged in and have your credit/debit card ready. The last three product launches (3090, 4090 and 7950x3D) I have took part in here have honestly been terrible with the website crashing and not being able to order.

so 'no there isn't then' is the miserable answer which tbh I kind of knew already I suppose... I just struggle to understand why it has to be that way it really puts you off, I dread upgrades now because of the day one retail experience its like trying to buy concert tickets but for mass produced consumer electronics

 

[john_smith]

If going for a more budget friendly B650E motherboard, will you see much / any(?) performance diff vs an x670E?

 

[BigBANGtheory]

If going for a more budget friendly B650E motherboard, will you see much / any(?) performance diff vs an x670E?

not today, it really depends on how long you think you will keep the MB because as we move towards Zen5,6+ the features of X670E become more useful imho potentially even with longer support from AMD. There is no certainty in that though AMD are intentionally vague so as not to lock themselves in

 

[john_smith]

I'm thinking a cheaper board now and then sold for £75? in a few years time or even written off would be more beneficial financially than a £500+ board now.